Now, Kraftwelt I know nothing about, or rather; what I know didn't encourage me to delve further into them. Bah, humbug. But when the Sun god has the impertinence to utter:
Komputer is the opposite. They sound a lot like Kraftwerk, but with slightly cheesier modern techno sounds, and they have refused to acknowledge that they're influenced by Kraftwerk. A couple of their earlier songs are direct KW ripoffs - notably "Oh, Synthesizer" which >is just a permutation of Kraftwerk's "Neon Lights".
I beg to differ. I've interviewed them (late '98, they toured and played Oslo, unlike most bands), and they talked quite a bit about their obsession with Kraftwerk. Yes, and other bands, like the ones they mention on Mute's site, But if you're uncertain about where they "come from", take a look at their name, f'chrissake. Not Computer Magic Orchestra. Not Computelex. K-omputer. Gettit? Rewriting Kraftwerk's songs, as indeed they have done, is a more mature, more dignified and more musicianly tribute to Kraftwerk than merely doing their songs. (Which, as most will agree, has been done immaculately by, yes, Kraftwerk). The World of Tomorrow is Highly Recommended. If you recognize a riff here and a chord change there, know that they want you to. So there. Oystein _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Oystein Moe wrote:
But when the Sun god has the impertinence to utter:
I should have mentioned that I was relating second-hand information. The last time there was a large discussion of Komputer on this list, someone mentioned reading an interview with them in which they explicitly denied having been influenced by Kraftwerk. I had no reason to doubt, but perhaps I should have read the article myself. Thanks for providing new light on the matter. Can you verify that the members of Komputer were previously known as Fortran 5? This is another rumor I've heard. I highly enjoyed Fortran 5's album "Blues".
The World of Tomorrow is Highly Recommended. If you recognize a riff here and a chord change there, know that they want you to.
I have it. I consider all the tracks passable, and two or three of them are pretty good. I'm the last one to imply that a music ripoff is a bad thing; I greatly enjoy sampled and remixed music; it's the next best thing to the original, and sometimes even better. My beef with Komputer was that they had ripped off Kraftwerk and apparently denied any influence, thus commiting plagiarism - the bad kind of ripoff. -- /* Soleil */
--On den 20 juli 2002 18:14 -0600 Soleil Lapierre <lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca> wrote:
Can you verify that the members of Komputer were previously known as Fortran 5? This is another rumor I've heard. I highly enjoyed Fortran 5's album "Blues".
Yes, and before that they were: "I Start Counting" and also did some really good songs.
Very much agreed! When I first heard of Komputer I dismissed them as some sad rip off band without ideas of their own. But then "Looking Down on London" got me hooked and I gave "The World of Tomorrow" a proper listen. And it is a great electronic pop record. Obviously, the production is Kraftwerk down to the smallest detail but they have songwriting skills of their own. A particular favourite is "Valentina". Quite surprised to hear that they are the same people as Fortran 5 though. I always thought Fortran 5 was very bland... Erik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oystein Moe" <oyst1@hotmail.com> To: <Kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 9:48 PM Subject: [Kraftwerk] Komputer
Now, Kraftwelt I know nothing about, or rather; what I know didn't encourage me to delve further into them. Bah, humbug.
But when the Sun god has the impertinence to utter:
Komputer is the opposite. They sound a lot like Kraftwerk, but with slightly cheesier modern techno sounds, and they have refused to acknowledge that they're influenced by Kraftwerk. A couple of their earlier songs are direct KW ripoffs - notably "Oh, Synthesizer" which >is just a permutation of Kraftwerk's "Neon Lights".
I beg to differ. I've interviewed them (late '98, they toured and played Oslo, unlike most bands), and they talked quite a bit about their obsession with Kraftwerk. Yes, and other bands, like the ones they mention on Mute's site, But if you're uncertain about where they "come from", take a look at their name, f'chrissake. Not Computer Magic Orchestra. Not Computelex. K-omputer. Gettit?
Rewriting Kraftwerk's songs, as indeed they have done, is a more mature, more dignified and more musicianly tribute to Kraftwerk than merely doing their songs. (Which, as most will agree, has been done immaculately by, yes, Kraftwerk).
The World of Tomorrow is Highly Recommended. If you recognize a riff here and a chord change there, know that they want you to.
So there. Oystein
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