from the TADream mailinglist: /twingo @ http://twingokraftwerk.com -----Original Message----- From: amon_dueuel_2 [mailto:andreas-michael.klein@t-online.de] Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:30 To: tadream@yahoogroups.com Subject: [tadream] Re: Avantgarde and Technology/Kraftwerk & influence Kraftwerk's first "Techno"-album was "Trans Europe Express" in 1977. Talking about Detroit, here's an excerpt from http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/krautrock/mojo-kraftwerk.html: Most amazing of all, it's undoubtedly true that without this whitest of white groups, the history of black music in America would have been completely different. When Afrika Bambaataa took Kraftwerk's 'Trans-Europe Express' and 'Numbers' and combined them to form 'Planet Rock', he set in train (sic) a movement which, as the rappers say, just don't stop: not only was this effectively the birth of hip hop culture, but in Detroit young black kids like Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson and Carl Craig fed on Kraftwerk's hypnotic rhythms and developed what later became known as techno. In Britain, meanwhile, late '70s industrialists such as The Human League and Cabaret Voltaire built on Kraftwerk's breakthroughs, taking the sequenced-synthesizer sound to the furthest reaches of, respectively, pop's heartland and rock's avant- garde. And here is an excerpt from "A Brief History of Techno", see http://www.gridface.com/features/a_brief_history_of_techno.php Techno as we know it started with the German band Kraftwerk. In 1970, Florian Schneider and Ralf Hütter began to churn out innovative electronic pop hits. In the United States Kraftwerk did not go unnoticed. In the early '80s a trio of pioneers in Detroit began merging the sounds of Kraftwerk with funk. Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson combined synthesizer beats with basslines inspired by Parliament, George Clinton, and Funkadelic. In 1983 Atkins and Richard Davies, aka 3070, released the hit "Techno City" under the name Cybotron. "Techno" was born. Andreas-Michael --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)" <glenn@f...> wrote:

If you think techno music came about just because of Kraftwerk, you are forgetting the whole electro-scene and everything happening in Detroit and with black music in the late 70s. And the Japanese band YMO coined the "techno" term about this kind of music before Kraftwerk did, their 1981 album Technodelic comes to mind.

Glenn