Re: [Kraftwerk] A message from Wolfgang Fluer
Wolfgang wrote:
You in U.S. seem to be especially inhibited there, aren't you?
Eric Gartner impeccably answered:
That's a terrible stereotype, Wolfgang! The USA is a large and diverse place...
I couldn't agree with you more! Rick Jansen (from rja@euronet.nl, wherever that might be) wrote:
No. Can't you just shut up if you have nothing to say? Fluer is absolutely right in my opinion, the amount of babble is astonishing at times. [...]
Rob Evans answered:
That is a very American response, if you don't mind me saying. You think only certain people should be entitled to speak.
Talking about stereotypes... I don't agree with you. Freedom of speech is one of the many freedoms the Bill of Rights gives people in our Constitution. As a matter of fact, everyone in the world should be entitled to their opinion, even dear old Wolfgang. Don't agreeing with it is another thing, but at least voices should be heard without restrictions. Come to think of it, you had more troubles in this list with European members than with Americans, am I correct? Same with Wolfgang, but then again, he doesn't miss a chance to throw a poisoned arrow to this side of the world... (read the first sentence of this e-mail). oh jay wrote:
fyi : if i would be the owner or moderator of this list , i would IMMEDIATELY ban u FOR_A_LIFETIME from this list
Rest my case. 1984 will make a good reading if you haven't already. If you want to play Big Brother, go live in Cuba or some'. Please let freedom flow at ease in here and try to stay away from agitating peoples feelings if you can. Thank you. Wolfgang wrote:
This is unfair and not true! In my book I say the truth on every page [...]
Klaus Zaepke, do you agree with him? I know you don't. Dirk answered:
I got this from Ralf & Florian AND Conny Plank, perhaps these persons don't tell the truth. Sorry, if I was wrong.
For what I can tell, Ralf and Florian only want people to see what they want to show. Religion and government sure comes to mind, but that's a whole different issue... or is it? Do as I say, not as I do... Thomas, Drew wrote:
I'm about tired of these whiny former members of bands who curse the very vehicle that drove them to success in the FIRST place! Hey Wolf, if it wasn't for Kraftwerk you'd be a nobody; DEAL with it! Don't blame Kraftwerk because nobody bought in to your whole Yamo thing.
Speaking of whiners, dear Tom... I don't think Wolfie tries to blame anything on anybody, all he did in his book is show the other side of the band, the human side, the side Ralf and Florian want to hide from the public eye. Also, he wanted to set the record straight; he told the world where some credits truly belong. I'm pretty sure you'd be pissed if somebody else takes credit for one of your ideas. Not everyone reacts the same. You probably won't care, and I respect that. He wrote a book about it, and I respect that too. Is that too hard to understand? Thankfully, the judge on this case got it right, and gave Wolfie a pad on the back, instead of a fine. Enrique
From: "Enrique Correa" <ENRIQUEC@heraeusmtd.com>
1984 will make a good reading if you haven't already.
i have already !!! ;-)
If you want to play Big Brother, go live in Cuba or some'.
why should i ??? ;-) fyi : i only told dirki EXPLICITLY what i think about him & his VERY_PITIFUL (re)actions here ... & btw : removin' & bannin' trolls & troublemakers like him , who are very obviously ONLY interested in shameless self-promotion , PURE_LIBEL_&_DEFAMATION is THE_GIVEN_RIGHT of ev'ry responsible & reasonable list owner & moderator , of which this list sadly has NONE_!!! *very_deep_sigh* :-o
Please let freedom flow at ease in here
oh yeah ... "the freedom of LIBEL_&_DEFAMATION" !!! *grim* :-/ i'm really sorry mate , but if u indeed support that kind of "freedom" here , u better go & see a shrink ASAP & take your medication RIGHT_NOW_!!! *sigh* :-o
and try to stay away from agitating peoples feelings if you can. Thank you.
fyi : the person , who started all this mindless rubbish here was nobody else than dirki & to tell u the truth ... i surely WON'T stay away from criticizin' him UNTIL_HE_STOPS to spread his PURE_LIBEL_&_DEFAMATION here !!! PERIOD_!!! if u don't get this , mate ... it's your very own problem , sorry !!! :-/ people should FINALLY see & understand , where the borders between some funny banterin' & some pitiful LIBEL_&_DEFAMATION were crossed & CHASTISE those , who are GUILTY of this NOT_AT_ALL funny VIOLATION of laws , terms of service & common netiquette !!! *sigh* :-o THANK_U_!!! oh jay , who's really "NOT amused" about how narrow-minded some people here seem to be , when it comes to seein' & also ACCEPTIN' the FACTS_!!! *very_deep_sigh* :-o *~\^/~*
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