Re: [Kraftwerk] New discovery leads to speculation...
The best "proof" that something was in the works is the inscription on the back saying "REJECT". This leads me into believing that there were actually plans for this one, but they were rejected.
But all that "REJECT" can imply is that it was rejected for SOME reason and not that Kraftwerk changed their minds. Maybe it was rejected because of poor sound reproduction quality for example.
This and the story I've got from the seller (who is a very serious dealer) leads me into believing that these lot of discs may be a personal collection of the records this engineer worked on? That's what I would do as an engineer anyway :)
Yep... I can believe that an engineer could sneak back a copy that he's been working on... and kept them in a nice collection for himself... BUT for the reason why that disk was produced in the first place is STILL a mystery. Another thought that I've had.... this may not even be an 'official' Kraftwerk disk at all. Maybe a bootlegger tried to have the disk made up.... and while in mid process it was discovered that this was not 'official' the disk was 'rejected' by the pressing plant! It's just a thought.... which is all that we have. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk
But all that "REJECT" can imply is that it was rejected for SOME reason and not that Kraftwerk changed their minds. Maybe it was rejected because of poor sound reproduction quality for example. Indeed.. but if the sound quality was bad there should be another press which isn't bad.. and a subsequent release.. Right? :)
BUT for the reason why that disk was produced in the first place is STILL a mystery. Oh yes! That's what makes this so much fun :)
Another thought that I've had.... this may not even be an 'official' Kraftwerk disk at all. Maybe a bootlegger tried to have the disk made up.... and while in mid process it was discovered that this was not 'official' the disk was 'rejected' by the pressing plant! Mmm, this is certainly plausible! However, "Gallo" was the local pressing plant used by Philips, so it all makes sense if it indeed WAS thought to be a release.. (indeed, the label reads "Gallo / Philips", and we know for a fact that this engineer worked at Gallo)
It's too bad I don't have direct contact with this engineer... I'll try to pressure the seller to put us in contact! Cheers, Peo
My gut feeling tells me that this acetate is, like all acetates, a test pressing made on stupidly thin vinyl. However the fact it says "REJECT - MONO MIX" indicates that this could a mix of the track made in Mono which was then rejected by the group etc. from release. Worth - at the very least - recording if you have the chance, that is, if you don't mind. M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per-Olof Karlsson" <grovsnus72@hotmail.com> To: <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] New discovery leads to speculation...
But all that "REJECT" can imply is that it was rejected for SOME reason and not that Kraftwerk changed their minds. Maybe it was rejected because of poor sound reproduction quality for example. Indeed.. but if the sound quality was bad there should be another press which isn't bad.. and a subsequent release.. Right? :)
BUT for the reason why that disk was produced in the first place is STILL a mystery. Oh yes! That's what makes this so much fun :)
Another thought that I've had.... this may not even be an 'official' Kraftwerk disk at all. Maybe a bootlegger tried to have the disk made up.... and while in mid process it was discovered that this was not 'official' the disk was 'rejected' by the pressing plant! Mmm, this is certainly plausible! However, "Gallo" was the local pressing plant used by Philips, so it all makes sense if it indeed WAS thought to be a release.. (indeed, the label reads "Gallo / Philips", and we know for a fact that this engineer worked at Gallo)
It's too bad I don't have direct contact with this engineer... I'll try to pressure the seller to put us in contact! Cheers, Peo _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk
My gut feeling tells me that this acetate is, like all acetates, a test pressing made on stupidly thin vinyl.
An acetate is not vinyl, it's a metal disc. It's much simpler to engrave an acetate than producing a master plate from which you can press vinyl, and it's much cheaper.. That's why they made 'em - just a quick check before they start the real mastering process, from which you get the real test pressings and later on the final product.
Worth - at the very least - recording if you have the chance, that is, if you don't mind.
Some day I will.. I won't play it until I've had the chance to get a decent vinyl player, though. My current one has died horribly from a slight accident, and it looks beyond repair... :( Cheers, Peo
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