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hip hop is a term applied to black culture since 1975. "Hip hop is not a culture but a sub-culture of a people with a culture." http://www.onlinerecords.co.uk/History/HipHop.html
There was no hip hop music in the '70's.
oh well- even more "splitting hairs" then! honestly, i'm sick and tired of your self-righteous replies by now, brother! check this out- http://www.zulunation.com/hip_hop_history_2.htm -and please stop contradicting yourself with your half-wise wannabe "knowledge" any further here!
Where'd you get that info, brother? Does this mean "technically" TEE (1976) came AFTER Hip Hop?
for your information: kraftwerk's t.e.e. was first released in 1977 and not in 1976! this means that t.e.e. was released at the same time as the hip hop culture and movement (not just the music!) became more recognized. "technically", t.e.e. was one of the most sampled and used/played records of that period in n.y.c.!
Maybe Ralf thought of the idea of TEE November 11th, 1974. Would that be the "birth" of Trans Europe Express? We must focus, brother.
fact is that you run out of arguments and all you do right now is splitting even more hairs, brother! get real- and maybe become a hair stylist then! ;) p.s.: as far as i'm concerned, this topic is closed, as all relevant info is out and only ignorant and arrogant wannabe's would discuss it any further, sorry. peace, y' all! ..::=|X|=::..
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oh well- even more "splitting hairs" then! honestly, i'm sick and tired of your self-righteous replies by now, brother!
============ What a coincidence. Some guy named John *just* started a topic called "splitting hairs" on a popular jazz list and has an alias with a .de suffix on the same list. Too funny!
it may surprise you, but hip hop was indeed "born" around the same time as kraftwerk released their t.e.e. album.
The album was written in 1976...nobody but a few Brooklyners knew anything about a hip hop. And it wasn't music like rap, but a way of life and art by high schoolers.
Maybe Ralf thought of the idea of TEE November 11th, 1974. Would that be the "birth" of Trans Europe Express? We must focus, brother.
fact is that you run out of arguments and all you do right now is splitting even more hairs, brother! get real- and maybe become a hair stylist then! ;)
========== Wasn't your premise that KW stole from Hip Hop? You're con-fusing us, brother.
p.s.: as far as i'm concerned, this topic is closed, as all relevant info is out and only ignorant and arrogant wannabe's would discuss it any further, sorry.
peace, y' all!
------------ Calling people "ignorant" "arrogant" then signing off with "peace" sounds like a call for help, brother. Even the greatest hiphoppers change themselves in the looking glass. amir
There was talk of the TEE LP...
The album was written in 1976...
I don't know for sure about that... BUT tracks from TEE were most definitely being performed in that year... maybe 'experimenting' before the actual finished item? Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk
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