Well, we have nice discussions here... First of all, thanks a lot, Dirk, for the wonderful pics... we are waiting for a full report... :-) Florian wiht glasses smiling is now the pic in my computer... hahaha You started to talk about Hilpert & Henning, The Other Two... sorry, I could not skip from the name of New Order's Other Two... hehehe I would like to know what you think about them. Of course we didn't know in studio, because with just a single we cannot see if they work nice or not. But considering concerts, I can say something. Hilpert seems to me a hard worker... Actually he control most of rhythm section and video. On Rio de Janeiro soundcheck he put the laser discs on the consoles and played them. And I really like his work on concert... pressing the knobs to change the sound, keeping a warm and sweet rhythm, breaking some patterns and adding others... a really nico work, don't you think? Henning didn't work so hard. Just the bass line. OK, KW basses are now much more intense than 16 years ago, but I really didn't like him. And I have Eloy and TV Junk discs. They are really crap. Why did KW call The Other Two? They don't have a previous work that justified it. peace Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br