why 35 minutes? IF they release another disc, i hope it will be a double-cd with multimedia's.... or how do you explain, working for over 11 years on ONE album???? *rotflol*
Their longest album(s) of new material in their entire back catalogue is 42 minutes (Autobahn, Trans Europe Express). I don't mind a short album, it is good to listen all the way through and the emphasis is on quality. I cannot believe they might have spent 11 years on one album. They are playing with us. Now ask me how they play with us. Rob _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
I found "Tour De France" on Napster, last year but I haven't been able to find that CD. Is it out of print? I've found a new appreciation of "Techno Pop" from "Electric Cafe". I've been playing it in my truck Peace!
5/29/02 3:39:07 PM, Brian Davis <jita1@comcast.net> wrote:
I found "Tour De France" on Napster, last year but I haven't been able to find that CD. Is it out of print?
I've found a new appreciation of "Techno Pop" from "Electric Cafe". I've been playing it in my truck
Peace!
TdF was released as the first single to Kraftwerk's 1983 album, "Technopop" Then Ralf got into a serious biking accident, and they had to delay the album. Then Ralf didn't like where Technopop was going, and they decided to devote time to upgrading Kling Klang studios from analog to digital. They re-did some of the tracks of the "Technopop" album in digital ("Techno Pop", "Sex Object" are the only ones publicly known), and released it in 1986 as "Electric Cafe". Tour de France was supposed to be on the "Technopop" album, but it never saw light of day (Really close though...) It wasn't re-done in digital for Electric Cafe either... In the late 1990's Kraftwerk released a single version of it...thats the only official album you can get it. I suggest listening to the leaked Technopop demos (Sex Object and Techno Pop), if you havent already...I enjoy them a bit more than the Electric Cafe versions... There's your information... Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
Brian Davis wrote:
I found "Tour De France" on Napster, last year but I haven't been able to find that CD. Is it out of print?
------------------ 10 Speed is a group who did this song. Sounds like KW under a different name. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aom9yxdfb2oly
I've found a new appreciation of "Techno Pop" from "Electric Cafe". I've been playing it in my truck
----------------- Headphones on late at night. Perfect rhythms all around. amir
5/29/02 9:37:16 PM, webmaster@slystone.com wrote:
Brian Davis wrote:
I found "Tour De France" on Napster, last year but I haven't been able to find that CD. Is it out of print?
------------------ 10 Speed is a group who did this song. Sounds like KW under a different name. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aom9yxdfb2oly
Maybe he is talking about KW...TdF isnt on an album, and the CD is pretty uncommon in the US if thats where he is from (im guessing he is...) Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
Tour De France is on a "Free To Be" compilation ( a series of dance club CD's that celebrates a Gay Lifestyle in the liner notes) by a group that says "10 Speed" but the song is actually the real dealio. Ralf was yanking our bike chains by not using the nake KW... "Free To Be" Vol 3 ©The Right Stuff EMI/Capitol Group Right Stuff Records #7243-8-52287-2-8 Track 12-Tour de France amir omegaChance wrote:
5/29/02 9:37:16 PM, webmaster@slystone.com wrote:
Brian Davis wrote:
I found "Tour De France" on Napster, last year but I haven't been able to find that CD. Is it out of print?
------------------ 10 Speed is a group who did this song. Sounds like KW under a different name. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aom9yxdfb2oly
Maybe he is talking about KW...TdF isnt on an album, and the CD is pretty uncommon in the US if thats where he is from (im guessing he is...)
Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
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Hello, I am sure you guys know it already, but if someone doesnt, Karl Bartos is working on a new album now. And there will probably be a tour in the spring of 2003. Just though I would mention it for the record. Glenn
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 16:18:20 +0200, Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media wrote:
Hello,
I am sure you guys know it already, but if someone doesnt, Karl Bartos is working on a new album now. And there will probably be a tour in the spring of 2003. Just though I would mention it for the record.
thank you for the info. we're waiting for this album since the "15 minutes of fame" CDSingle back in October 2000.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnaud" <bonald@altern.org>
I am sure you guys know it already, but if someone doesnt, Karl Bartos is working on a new album now. And there will probably be a tour in the spring of 2003. Just though I would mention it for the record.
thank you for the info. we're waiting for this album since the "15 minutes of fame" CDSingle back in October 2000.
It was not followed by an album? I didnt know that. Not a big Bartos follower myself, unless he makes another album like Esperanto. The news came from his management. Glenn
6/1/02 8:42:01 PM, "Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media" <glenn@folkvord.net> wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnaud" <bonald@altern.org>
I am sure you guys know it already, but if someone doesnt, Karl Bartos is working on a new album now. And there will probably be a tour in the spring of 2003. Just though I would mention it for the record.
Yes, I hope its like Esperanto, I didnt enjoy the poppy 2nd album as much as Esperanto...I do enjoy Bartos's work though... Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
I am sure you guys know it already, but if someone doesnt, Karl Bartos is working on a new album now. And there will probably be a tour in the spring of 2003. Just though I would mention it for the record.
Karl Bartos web-site: "May 15th, 2002 Work in progress: Karl Bartos in the studio" (http://www.karl-bartos.de/news/studio.jpg) ... "Still at work in the studio: Karl Bartos put together 12 compositions for his new album. It will be produced over the next months and will be released as as soon as possible after that." At least Karl working in new album... Dante. http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br
6/2/02 12:07:16 AM, Dante de Conti Neto <musica@dante.eti.br> wrote:
At least Karl working in new album...
So is Wolfgang...and maybe even Ralf and Florian!?!? Maybe this is the year of all things Kraftwerk! Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
omegaChance wrote:
6/2/02 12:07:16 AM, Dante de Conti Neto <musica@dante.eti.br> wrote:
At least Karl working in new album...
So is Wolfgang...and maybe even Ralf and Florian!?!? Maybe this is the year of all things Kraftwerk!
----------- Let's hope the sum of is LESSER than the individual kw parts! In this case, anyway! amir
as far as i know, wolfgang will never release an album.... i heard it from an kw-yamo-"insider"... but i hope, he will release... regards, arthur -------------------------------------- www.network81.com www.arthur-brehm.de www.klanghof.de www.duesselklang.de ----- Original Message ----- From: <webmaster@slystone.com> To: <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] New Bartos album (old news?)
omegaChance wrote:
6/2/02 12:07:16 AM, Dante de Conti Neto <musica@dante.eti.br> wrote:
At least Karl working in new album...
So is Wolfgang...and maybe even Ralf and Florian!?!? Maybe this is the
year of all things Kraftwerk!
----------- Let's hope the sum of is LESSER than the individual kw parts! In this case, anyway!
amir
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6/3/02 2:31:10 AM, "www.network81.com" <klingklang@network81.com> wrote:
as far as i know, wolfgang will never release an album....
But he already has ;-)
i heard it from an kw-yamo-"insider"... but i hope, he will release...
regards, arthur
I remember Klaus or someone else told this list last month (I tried searching the archives, but last month we were plagued with the word Wolfgang, and a search on it was useless), who talks with Mr. Flür himself, and told us about this. Maybe he changed his mind or something... Time will tell. Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
well, folks, do you think, that kraftwerk is to old for a new tour? i think, they are not in condition for a tour like 81.... please: do not misunderstand...i love the music... i grew up with it... but in fact: they reached the peak with "computerworld"!?? with best wishes, arthur -------------------------------------- www.network81.com www.arthur-brehm.de www.klanghof.de www.duesselklang.de
6/3/02 2:15:07 PM, "www.network81.com" <klingklang@network81.com> wrote:
well, folks, do you think, that kraftwerk is to old for a new tour? i think, they are not in condition for a tour like 81.... please: do not misunderstand...i love the music... i grew up with it...
Ive been thinking lately...and it seems Ralf, last time we saw him, is losing his hair. I doubt he'll just shave it off like Florian did...maybe he is a bit embarrased (he shouldnt be though)....just a thought. I know its not the whole reason, but maybe a bit that contributes to it...
but in fact: they reached the peak with "computerworld"!??
Yes, with touring, it was their peak, IMO. Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
it seems, that the robots loosing their hair in getting old... have you ever seen robots with grey hair? i'm just a little bit afraid...that the robots will never dance anymore... maybe the fat lady has just end singing?? -------------------------------------- www.network81.com www.arthur-brehm.de www.klanghof.de www.duesselklang.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "omegaChance" <omegaChance@firemail.de> To: <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk to old for new tour??
6/3/02 2:15:07 PM, "www.network81.com" <klingklang@network81.com> wrote:
well, folks, do you think, that kraftwerk is to old for a new tour? i think, they are not in condition for a tour like 81.... please: do not misunderstand...i love the music... i grew up with it...
Ive been thinking lately...and it seems Ralf, last time we saw him, is losing his hair. I doubt he'll just shave it off like Florian did...maybe he is a bit embarrased (he shouldnt be though)....just a thought. I know its not the whole reason, but maybe a bit that contributes to it...
but in fact: they reached the peak with "computerworld"!??
Yes, with touring, it was their peak, IMO.
Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
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www.network81.com <klingklang@network81.com> wrote:
it seems, that the robots loosing their hair in getting old... have you ever seen robots with grey hair?
That reminds me, do you also notice that both Ralf and Florian's robot heads have been replaced since 1991 at least once? DER AUTOMAT ®
Der Automat schrieb am 07.06.2002 15:09 Uhr MESZ:
That reminds me, do you also notice that both Ralf and Florian's robot heads have been replaced since 1991 at least once?
yeah, i replaced them with their real heads. signed Rotwang, inventor City of Metropolis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
much more than the studio version of "tv" i love the live-version done in cologne... it has more "heart" in the song... more d-moll... more feelings... does anyone knows the live-version? what do you think about? -------------------------------------- www.network81.com www.arthur-brehm.de www.klanghof.de www.duesselklang.de
Ive been thinking lately...and it seems Ralf, last time we saw him, is losing his hair. I doubt he'll just shave it off like Florian did...maybe he is a bit embarrased (he shouldnt be though)....just a thought. I know its not the whole reason, but maybe a bit that contributes to it...
I don't think that anyone who has been known to dance around with a pocket calculator on stage would be embarrassed by a little natural hair loss. ;) -Eric
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Eric Gartner wrote:
Ive been thinking lately...and it seems Ralf, last time we saw him, is losing his hair. I doubt he'll just shave it off like Florian did...maybe he is a bit embarrased (he shouldnt be though)....just a thought. I know its not the whole reason, but maybe a bit that contributes to it...
I don't think that anyone who has been known to dance around with a pocket calculator on stage would be embarrassed by a little natural hair loss. ;)
Besides, what use do robots have for hair? :) -- /* Soleil */
iron or plastichair??? -------------------------------------- www.network81.com www.arthur-brehm.de www.klanghof.de www.duesselklang.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soleil Lapierre" <lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca> To: <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk to old for new tour??
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Eric Gartner wrote:
Ive been thinking lately...and it seems Ralf, last time we saw him, is losing his hair. I doubt he'll just shave it off like Florian did...maybe he is a bit embarrased (he shouldnt be though)....just a thought. I know its not the whole reason, but maybe a bit that contributes to it...
I don't think that anyone who has been known to dance around with a pocket calculator on stage would be embarrassed by a little natural hair loss. ;)
Besides, what use do robots have for hair? :)
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That's not a question of age...the Rolling Stones e.g. are still touring (and don't forget Buena Vista Social Club - they were in their 70ies playing in the New York Radio City Hall). No, maybe Kraftwerk are just / still working on their "conceptionally new concerts", as Ralf Huetter mentioned in an 1998 (!) interview...and some time, "real" robots (Mechas) will replace them. BTW, try this "Pocket Calculator": http://www.crazyhorsemen.com/secret/org-calc/org-calc.swf ;-) Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie
6/3/02 5:33:21 PM, Georg Jajus <Georgie@blackbox.net> wrote:
That's not a question of age...the Rolling Stones e.g. are still touring (and don't forget Buena Vista Social Club - they were in their 70ies playing in the New York Radio City Hall).
Well, Kraftwerk has always been a bit more concerned about their public image than most bands... Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
The tickets for the laatest Stones Tour aren't selling as fast as expected here in the States. If those California Raisins can dance all over the stage, actually only Mick Jagger, then Kraftwerk can stand and compute for 3 hours. Or design cool, electronic barstools to sit on. They cancelled a show in a local skating rink here in DC in the early 90's (or late 80's?). peace, amir "www.network81.com" wrote:
well, folks, do you think, that kraftwerk is to old for a new tour? i think, they are not in condition for a tour like 81.... please: do not misunderstand...i love the music... i grew up with it...
but in fact: they reached the peak with "computerworld"!??
with best wishes,
arthur -------------------------------------- www.network81.com www.arthur-brehm.de www.klanghof.de www.duesselklang.de
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They cancelled a show in a local skating rink here in DC in the early 90's (or late 80's?).
Early nineties. The whole US tour got scrapped. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu
John McIntyre wrote:
webmaster@slystone.com wrote:
They cancelled a show in a local skating rink here in DC in the early 90's (or late 80's?).
Early nineties. The whole US tour got scrapped.
--------------- Thanks. I remember being really pissed off. Not only waiting for nonexistent album releases, but finding absolutely NO INFO on the group itself. Life before the internet and web.... how the hell did KW fans survive? amir
Life before the internet and web.... how the hell did KW fans survive?
having other hobbies? *g* meeting friends? *lol* arthur -------------------------------------- www.network81.com www.arthur-brehm.de www.klanghof.de www.duesselklang.de
Dante de Conti Neto wrote:
Karl Bartos web-site: "May 15th, 2002 Work in progress: Karl Bartos in the studio" (http://www.karl-bartos.de/news/studio.jpg)
--------------- This page is too large to download. ha ha Amir
Is there a particular nifty song Karl is known to right? He was Wolfgang's running partner. I know Ralf is the creative genius, on my favorite KW tunes anyway. amir Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media wrote:
Hello,
I am sure you guys know it already, but if someone doesnt, Karl Bartos is working on a new album now. And there will probably be a tour in the spring of 2003. Just though I would mention it for the record.
Glenn
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I meant "write" not "right." No more beers for breakfast... webmaster@slystone.com wrote:
Is there a particular nifty song Karl is known to right? He was Wolfgang's running partner. I know Ralf is the creative genius, on my favorite KW tunes anyway.
amir
Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media wrote:
Hello,
I am sure you guys know it already, but if someone doesnt, Karl Bartos is working on a new album now. And there will probably be a tour in the spring of 2003. Just though I would mention it for the record.
Glenn
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6/2/02 8:55:03 AM, webmaster@slystone.com wrote:
Is there a particular nifty song Karl is known to write?
I suggest you check out Bartos's first album "Esperanto" it follows the Kraftwerk style for the most part...My favorite tracks off that album include: "TV", "Show Business", "Lifestyle", "Esperanto", and "Cross Talk". If your going to check them out by downloading, you should also know the music is under the name Elektric Music, but I suppose you'd find most of them under Bartos's name. The second album by Bartos (Which he had changed the artist name from Elektric Music to Electric Music) is more pop, with few electronic elements thrown in...more guitars than synthesizers...while the album is nice to listen to if your a bit depressed, it doesnt really cut it for most Kraftwerk fans in seek of an alternative.
I know Ralf is the creative genius, on my favorite KW tunes anyway.
Some of Kraftwerk's greatest werks were written by Bartos (Who wrote a large amount on The Man Machine and Computer World albums)...must be a big fan of TEE or Electic Cafe...most people like the werks off of TMM and CW the most than any others... Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
"We Work To Satisfy You" on your site is pumpin'. amir omegaChance wrote:
6/2/02 8:55:03 AM, webmaster@slystone.com wrote:
Is there a particular nifty song Karl is known to write?
I suggest you check out Bartos's first album "Esperanto" it follows the Kraftwerk style for the most part...My favorite tracks off that album include: "TV", "Show Business", "Lifestyle", "Esperanto", and "Cross Talk". If your going to check them out by downloading, you should also know the music is under the name Elektric Music, but I suppose you'd find most of them under Bartos's name.
The second album by Bartos (Which he had changed the artist name from Elektric Music to Electric Music) is more pop, with few electronic elements thrown in...more guitars than synthesizers...while the album is nice to listen to if your a bit depressed, it doesnt really cut it for most Kraftwerk fans in seek of an alternative.
I know Ralf is the creative genius, on my favorite KW tunes anyway.
Some of Kraftwerk's greatest werks were written by Bartos (Who wrote a large amount on The Man Machine and Computer World albums)...must be a big fan of TEE or Electic Cafe...most people like the werks off of TMM and CW the most than any others...
Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
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