From: "Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media" <glenn(a)folkvord.net>
> Music as a phenomenon in society has been studied in depth
> many times everywhere.
sure , it has , but i'm currently ONLY interested in the link between kw & their
female listeners in this specific case , so GENERAL statistics of a certain
country that's not the one i & the original questioner ( antje , if i recall
right ??? ;-) come from , simply DOESN'T apply to me nor to her or ANY other
male or female german kw fan !!!
> I have read about this topic in specialist magazines in the past
> and found an article in the American Keyboard magazine
> that also mentioned it.
well ... i highly suppose that the american keyboard magazine hasn't asked
female german kw fans ( nor even german females in general !!! ) about what kind
of music they like , so this article simply is of NO_IMPORTANCE to us in this
specific case , sorry !!!
> It's a common misunderstanding (and an easy misunderstanding to make,
> I dont blame you :-) to take personal experiences as statistical info.
fyi : i've NEVER said that my personal experiences are anythin' like
"statistical info" of any kind , so i dunno where a misunderstandin' comes into
play in this specific case , dear glenn !!! *sly_grin* ;-)
i've jus' stated what i've experienced in my & my female friends' cases to
*_ADD_* to this debate !!! ;-)
nothin' more or less than this !!! *G+* ;-)
> Looking at bigger surveys than those done by you among your friends,
> I bet the results would be different.
of course , but such a survey's result printed in an american keyboard magazine
is of ABSOLUTELY_NO_VALUE_NOR_IMPORTANCE for us german kw fans ... no matter ,
if we are male or female - simply because i bet that NONE of us were asked ,
right !? *slyest_grin* ;-)))
in other words : if ONLY american citizens were asked , it ONLY applies to them
& if ONLY german citizens were asked , it ONLY applies to them etc. !!! ;-)
> Also, a statement like "I saw many girls at the latest
> Kraftwerk/TD/Jarre/Vangelis concert" does not necessarily prove that those
> females are fans. They could be tagging along their boyfriend.
damned right , glenn !!! *BWG* ;-)))
> On the other hand, it is more difficult to spot female fans of any genre or
> artist because:
>
> * Women are more than men able to enjoy / "be fans of" music without owning
> CDs (ownership of physcial objects appeal more to men than women)
> * Women tend to not "collect" things as much as men - collecting stuff is to
> a large extent a male activity
> * Women tend to communicate more than men on an emotional level and
> therefore do not need so many visual aids (posters, merchandise, souvenirs)
> as men - men are more visually inclined than women
> * Women are often quiter than men and voice their appreciation for something
> less than men in (subconcious) fear of being rejected for their preferences.
> Men dont care if other men laugh at their preference for "geeky computer
> music"
these are indeed some interestin' "observations" !!! *another_sly_grin* ;-)
> These things are based on sociological studies and apply *in general*
> (exceptions exist) on a large scale.
yes , but ONLY to those people in the country or countries they were actually
made ( see my explanation above ) !!! *slyest_grin_again* ;-)))
> You and your friends may not be like the above but then again,
> you and your friends may not represent the entire population of a country.
damned right , but as ABSOLUTELY_NOBODY "represents" the entire population of a
country , it can ( or better to say MUST_!!! ) ONLY be seen as an example for
ONE specific country , like america ( or the u. s. of a. , to be more exact ;-)
, in your case !!! ;-)
anyway ... as long as nobody points me into the direction of A_SPECIFIC_SURVEY
about male & female kw fans from germany , glenn's example is of NO_USE for me &
antje , because it simply DOESN'T apply to us german kw fans , sorry !!!
however ... many greetinx ,
oh jay ;-)
*~\^/~*