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Help! 80´s track
by Marc 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

I have been trying to figure out this track and find it for 10 years!! I heard this track from someones tape a long time ago. Needless to say it sounds very Kraftwerk. I would say the track is from 83-86 but it could be earlier i suppose. Listening to the song, i think of the Circus. This is because of 2 main reasons: - It has a slow deep bassline that would mimmic the walking of heavy elephants. Could be used in a reggae song. - There is a melody that acts like a chorus in the track that reminds me of those old mechanical instruments you would have at circuses that you cranked-up. - There is also that tch-tch-tch sound throughout the tune that sounds like in Kraftwerks Trans.X or the bionic-man using his super strength. Anything????? I have downloaded a song called sci-fi momento thats not so far off. It claims to be Kraftwerk as well?? but thats another story. _____________________________________________________ Hitta snÃ¶rapporter... frÃ¥n 500 olika skidorter i Europa pÃ¥ http://se.snow.yahoo.com

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Kraftwerk ringtones
by Der Automat 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

http://www.vh1.co.uk/vh1.co.uk/ They have a Kraftwerk ringtones section! DER AUTOMAT

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Re: [Kraftwerk] Staatliche Hochschule für Gestaltung
by Rob Evans 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

>i'm sorry to disappoint u , dear rob , but that's actually "ol' news" & it >was already mentioned here months or even years ago !!! ;-) >where were u @ that point in kw history anyway ??? *G+* ;-) Buying Expo 2000 and re-familiarising myself with Kraftwerk >btw : isn't it also listed already "somewhere" in the kw faq , dear kevin >??? *jus'_curious* ;-) Haven't seen it anywhere Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Technopop
by Mark Reed 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

yerp. Pages 142-143 of "Man Machine And Music" by Pascal Bussy. Or, in the chapter "Boings And Booms" Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Reed" <gentle.anarchist(a)virgin.net> To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Technopop Can't remember where I read this, sorry, but I heard that the the New York Instititute had completed a rough mix of the video in 1984, and were constantly updating it to match up with developments in technology, even though the finished mix of the track wasn't completed until 1986. Apparently they put the video in data storage on a special network somewhere in New York waiting for the finished mix of the track. The video then was constructed from the head mask replicas that must have been made in 1984. I think I read that on a New York Institute webpage years ago. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oh Jay" <oh_jay(a)freenet.de> To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Technopop From: "Mark Reed" <gentle.anarchist(a)virgin.net> > I can't think why Music Non Stop woul have NOT been on "Technopop". > After all, the video was finished in early 1984, so it was probably written > during - or before - 1983 when Technopop was recorded. may i ask u , where u've got the info from that the "music non-stop" video was already made in 1984 ??? :-o afaik , it was made AFTER all the recordings for the "electric cafe" album were already done in 1986 !!! however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk

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Staatliche Hochschule für Gestaltung
by Gunnar R Johansson 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

I found this at http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~fwinkler/C206/az.html Anyone who has more info about this? "From 1999-2000 Florian Schneider was professor for sounddesign and performance at Staatliche Hochschule für Gestaltung (State School of Design) in Karlsruhe." /Gunnar

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Technopop
by omegaChance 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

>>Techno Pop - demo version >But, this track was supposed to be 17 minutes long, and the demo is 4... All my versions of it fade out, so it could mean that its longer... >>Electric Cafe - remix (any bootleg mix, there's enough) >>Music Non Stop - 12" mix > >These two would not have been on Techno Pop, but we have to include them to >make our "Techno Pop" album long enough.... Why? Im sorry, but Im very uneducated than the majority of you since my resources are limited. I'd like to know why wouldn't they be. The Technopop album is always a favorite discussion of mine. Signed, omegaChance Omega(a)herzeleid.net AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance _____________________________________________________________ Run a small business? Then you need professional email like you(a)yourbiz.com from Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net?tag

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Technopop
by Rob Evans 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

>Why waste time talking about something Ralf never wanted us to hear in the >first place? Well, if he did not have his cycling accident, "Techno Pop" would have been a released album, and certainly something that he would have wanted us to hear. By the time of 1986, the analogue synths sounded a little outdated to him so they did it all again on digital equipment, except "Tour De France". Then they made "Boing Boom Tschak" and "Electric Cafe" to make a six track album. I find that a good "Techno Pop" album can be made by taking the middle 4 tracks of "Electric Cafe", and putting the Kevorkian mix of "Tour de France" at the end, so you have 5 tracks, all re-worked by Francois K, and it is 35 minutes long. Sad I know. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Technopop
by Enrique Correa 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

For my money, Electric Cafe IS the official version, if you will, of that unreleased album. Why waste time talking about something Ralf never wanted us to hear in the first place? I personally prefer the Electric Cafe album over a few crappy demos floating around of what it seems an average 80's band playing with synths. Cheers, E

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Re: [Kraftwerk] TechnoPop...maybe...
by Rob Evans 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

>Tour De France - 12" mix Fine, the 6:44 "Analog Mix".. >Techno Pop - demo version But, this track was supposed to be 17 minutes long, and the demo is 4... >Sex Object - demo version Quite close in length to how it would have been (4 minutes) >Der Telefon Anruf - 12" mix Maybe similar >Electric Cafe - remix (any bootleg mix, there's enough) >Music Non Stop - 12" mix These two would not have been on Techno Pop, but we have to include them to make our "Techno Pop" album long enough.... Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Autobahn drums
by Oystein Moe 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

I don't remember exactly how it's put in the book, but Kraftwerk have sued Flür for a lot of quotes in that book, even the most unimportant details (like where the idea from Metall Auf Metall came from, the "Kenne Kein Wolfgang!" incident... I swapped the German issue of that book for the English edn, a number of details were toned down, lots of "I think" and "perhaps" were added) If Wolfgang claims to play the drums on this one and Kraftwerk claims its them, I for one know what to believe. (At least until Dirk tells me he was there and saw R&F performing the drums, which for what I know could have happened...;) Oystein >Please correct me if I'm wrong (I have not read the book yet) but >Wolfgan= >g >Fluer's I Was A Robot claims he played drums on this very track. >Furthermore, there is a judicial contentious about this subject, isn't >there? > >DER AUTOMAT _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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