Hi, everyone, especially Tim (and thanks, once again, for the labels and sleeves!) I always wonder whatever happened to the labels for "Pure Trance 5" KLF8T. I'm sure the discog says there are at least two kinds - one of which says "E-Train" on them, and the other (light blue?) says "The White Room". Were there 2000 presses of each? Anyone have them. 8T labels seem rarer than 6T and 7T. Also, I can't help noticing that KLF8R labels are different to 4,5,6 & 7 T & R (where applicable). The spine writing is different, and the front seems to be rotated by 90 degrees. And of course, I mean the original and not the 2000 boot. John
Message date : Jan 12 2005, 10:45 AM From : "tim DENTON" To : "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." Copy to : Subject : Re: [KLF] Thanks 006T
I actually got it off ebay recently, cost me an arm and a leg, was a bit unsure when I bid on it but when I got my hands on it and examined it, played it etc (only once to record to md) there is no way it's a boot. My guess is its a test pressing which could mean there may only be 6 in existance and if it is a test pressing was it authorised by bill & jimmy? However there are fully labelled and sleeved love trances these could be test pressings where someone has stuck the labels on since, and is now listed in the new record collector price guide. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Ireland To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Thanks
Excellent! Can I ask the story of how you managed to find it? Vast quantities of money on ebay? or a jaw dropping suprise for 50p at the local car boot. my guess is neither of those, but I'm not sure I could keep my jaw off the carpet if I found it while rooting through some vinyl. Cheers Ian
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I am fortunate enough to have one of these, and yes I'm certain it's legit. It was pressed at adrenalin and you may have noticed it samples from Space. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Ireland To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: [KLF] Thanks
Hi Folks, Just a quick note to day thanks. After much looking I found the details for the KLFcentral ftp site And the one run by Rmstringer. Wow its like being given the keys to the sweet shop. I love the blacksmoke stuff, just feel slightly uneasy with all the 9/11 commentators. Whats everyones Opinion on it? I've tried e-mailing Rmstringer and Mark Weston, but I'm not getting any response. I've just got Soulseek Setup and would love to take up Mark's kind offer. Thanks to everyone involved in creating such a fantastic KLF resource. Is that Love Trance, THE Love trance I thought they didn't press any. WOW who has a copy. Cheers Ian
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Apparently the blue/pea green/sea green (call it what you will) PT5 was released at the same time as the pink 008R we all know and love. It was then recalled for some reason (maybe it was just a duff sleeve print run that got out accidentally?). There is also a version in existance which is identical to the pink PT5 sleeve, except that along the bottom it says "The White Room" and not "Last Train To Trancentral". This may have been 008T... Chris -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+chris=k23productions.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+chris=k23productions.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Milne Sent: 12 January 2005 11:41 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: Re: [KLF] Thanks 006T Hi, everyone, especially Tim (and thanks, once again, for the labels and sleeves!) I always wonder whatever happened to the labels for "Pure Trance 5" KLF8T. I'm sure the discog says there are at least two kinds - one of which says "E-Train" on them, and the other (light blue?) says "The White Room". Were there 2000 presses of each? Anyone have them. 8T labels seem rarer than 6T and 7T. Also, I can't help noticing that KLF8R labels are different to 4,5,6 & 7 T & R (where applicable). The spine writing is different, and the front seems to be rotated by 90 degrees. And of course, I mean the original and not the 2000 boot. John
Message date : Jan 12 2005, 10:45 AM From : "tim DENTON" To : "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." Copy to : Subject : Re: [KLF] Thanks 006T
I actually got it off ebay recently, cost me an arm and a leg, was a bit unsure when I bid on it but when I got my hands on it and examined it, played it etc (only once to record to md) there is no way it's a boot. My guess is its a test pressing which could mean there may only be 6 in existance and if it is a test pressing was it authorised by bill & jimmy? However there are fully labelled and sleeved love trances these could be test pressings where someone has stuck the labels on since, and is now listed in the new record collector price guide. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Ireland <mailto:ian.ireland@ntlworld.com> To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' <mailto:klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Thanks
Excellent! Can I ask the story of how you managed to find it? Vast quantities of money on ebay? or a jaw dropping suprise for 50p at the local car boot. my guess is neither of those, but I'm not sure I could keep my jaw off the carpet if I found it while rooting through some vinyl. Cheers Ian
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Sent: 11 January 2005 19:14 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Thanks
I am fortunate enough to have one of these, and yes I'm certain it's legit. It was pressed at adrenalin and you may have noticed it samples from Space. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Ireland <mailto:ian.ireland@ntlworld.com> To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: [KLF] Thanks
Hi Folks,
Just a quick note to day thanks. After much looking I found the details for the KLFcentral ftp site And the one run by Rmstringer. Wow its like being given the keys to the sweet shop.
I love the blacksmoke stuff, just feel slightly uneasy with all the 9/11 commentators. Whats everyones Opinion on it?
I've tried e-mailing Rmstringer and Mark Weston, but I'm not getting any response. I've just got Soulseek Setup and would love to take up Mark's kind offer.
Thanks to everyone involved in creating such a fantastic KLF resource. Is that Love Trance, THE Love trance I thought they didn't press any. WOW who has a copy.
Cheers
Ian
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As John mentioned that 008R and the rest of the PT series seem different, I thought I'd fish out a copy and compare them myself (it's Chelsea v Man Utd on Sky Sports 1 so I might as well)... Items chosen: KLF008R - genuine copy with gold "APPEARING" sticker on sleeve that gives details of the late Scott Piering. KLF005R - genuine first release (i.e. not the 1991 re-issue) with big fat 'THE UK MIXES' sticker on sleeve. The idea of using these two is that the sleeves and labels should - in theory - have been produced around the same time... Right, first - the sleeves: First thing I notice is that the PT5 sleeve has actually been printed rotated by 90 degrees. Laying the 005R sleeve down so I'm looking at the big number '2', the gap for the vinyl to slide in is at the top and the spine writing runs along the bottom fold. With 008R, laying it so the big '5' is the right way up means that the opening is on the right-hand side and the spine writing is along the left edge. The next thing is obvious and has been mentioned numerous times - to match up with 005R, the 008R sleeve should have had a pink background and a black number 5. While this seems inconsistent, 004T was black/green and 004R was black/yellow (as opposed to the expected green/black) and - without 006R and 007R to compare it against, it's difficult to say whether there was any proper relationship between sleeve colours and T/R releases. Next, as John mentioned, the font used on the 008R spine does not appear to be the usual 'Compacta' font and - intestingly - most of the other PT sleeves list the catalogue number as KLF 00nR whereas 008R actually lists it as simply 'KLF 8R'. Of course, once again, KLF004R is actually listed as 'KLF4R' so it's difficult to say whether or not this is inconsistent or not. Lastly, the rear of the 008R sleeve has the Cat. No. as 'KLF008R' which actually follows the numbering convention of all but KLF004R (which has 'KLF4R' instead). Onto the vinyl itself: 008R has 'KLF 8R A1' and 'PR-P' etched on side A and 'KLF 8R B1' and 'PR-P' etched on side B. The 1's are small but aren't subscript (as in some pressings), there are no hyphens between the KLF and 8R and A1/B1 and the etchings are handwritten rather than machine stamped. 005R has 'KLF-005-R-A1' and 'ADRENALIN' etched on side A and 'KLF-005-R-B1' and 'ADRENALIN' etched on side B. Again, the 1's are small but are not subscript. The etchings are handwritten rather than machine stamped but as these records were pressed at different plants it seems pointless to try to analyze this further. Finally, the labels: My copies show no big differences. There are some minor differences (the Pyramid Blaster logo is smaller on 005R) but this is probably down to typesetting/printing issues. One point of note is that 008R lists the tracks as A SIDE REMIX 1 and B SIDE REMIX 2 whereas 005R simply lists all four tracks and then uses either '(THIS SIDE)' or '(OTHER SIDE)' to distinguish which is where. Also, under the 'Writers' item, 005R simply has 'THE KLF' whereas 008R has "W. DRUMMOND/J. CAUTY" - these are (almost) reversed for the 'Producers' item. 008R is listed as 'KLF 008R' under 'Catalogue Number' (you might expect it to be simply 'KLF 8R'). Comment has been made that 008R has "GO TO SLEEP" listed under 'OTHER DATA' while the other PT releases have 'WELCOME TO THE TRANCE' - as I'm comparing 008R to 005R I'll not comment on this. There we go. Pointless exercise or an interesting diversion into KLF vinyl - you decide... Chris
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