At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable. There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said. I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank. +1 for the Moonshine though ;) -- anttil.
Don't get me wrong. I am one of the first to buy a good bootleg. Having had all the lost sounds of Mu CDs all the Orb rare collection CDs and numerous other artists live LPs and CDs over the years. I still have a load of KLF DVDs to pass on but daren't put them on Ebay in case I get banned. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Sep 2013, at 15:20, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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If god had wanted me to write songs then why am i dyslexic and very good with computers and music technology LOL Not that i am planing to make botlegs i may remix some KLF at some point ________________________________ From: tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013, 17:27 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging Don't get me wrong. I am one of the first to buy a good bootleg. Having had all the lost sounds of Mu CDs all the Orb rare collection CDs and numerous other artists live LPs and CDs over the years. I still have a load of KLF DVDs to pass on but daren't put them on Ebay in case I get banned. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Sep 2013, at 15:20, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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I have 5 DVDs filled with thousands of unreleased live Rolling Stones tunes, concerts and jam sessions, from the 60's to a few years back. I bought them from ebay and would never have been able to get them from a shop, it's the rarest collection I have ever seen. Things are only worth what the next person will pay for them. p.s. Ebay normally only ban repeat offenders so just list your DVDs one at a time, if anyone complains they will remove it and then you stop listing it. What DVD is it anyway? does it have printed label or cover? -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of tom dawson Sent: 23 September 2013 17:28 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging Don't get me wrong. I am one of the first to buy a good bootleg. Having had all the lost sounds of Mu CDs all the Orb rare collection CDs and numerous other artists live LPs and CDs over the years. I still have a load of KLF DVDs to pass on but daren't put them on Ebay in case I get banned. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Sep 2013, at 15:20, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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All these DVDs were purchased some 15 years ago - all have colour sleeves The KLF - 1991 The Work The KLF - 1991 The Work - Special Extended Version Waiting K Foundation Burn a Million Quid Burning Money and Beyond The White Room (1989 Soundtrack) Stadium House - The Trilogy
From: blindedbythedarkness@ntlworld.com To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 01:20:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
I have 5 DVDs filled with thousands of unreleased live Rolling Stones tunes, concerts and jam sessions, from the 60's to a few years back. I bought them from ebay and would never have been able to get them from a shop, it's the rarest collection I have ever seen. Things are only worth what the next person will pay for them. p.s. Ebay normally only ban repeat offenders so just list your DVDs one at a time, if anyone complains they will remove it and then you stop listing it. What DVD is it anyway? does it have printed label or cover?
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of tom dawson Sent: 23 September 2013 17:28 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
Don't get me wrong. I am one of the first to buy a good bootleg. Having had all the lost sounds of Mu CDs all the Orb rare collection CDs and numerous other artists live LPs and CDs over the years.
I still have a load of KLF DVDs to pass on but daren't put them on Ebay in case I get banned.
Sent from my iPhone
On 23 Sep 2013, at 15:20, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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Burning Money and Beyond whats is this ? ________________________________ From: tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013, 15:56 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging All these DVDs were purchased some 15 years ago - all have colour sleeves The KLF - 1991 The Work The KLF - 1991 The Work - Special Extended Version Waiting K Foundation Burn a Million Quid Burning Money and Beyond The White Room (1989 Soundtrack) Stadium House - The Trilogy
From: blindedbythedarkness@ntlworld.com To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 01:20:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
I have 5 DVDs filled with thousands of unreleased live Rolling Stones tunes, concerts and jam sessions, from the 60's to a few years back. I bought them from ebay and would never have been able to get them from a shop, it's the rarest collection I have ever seen. Things are only worth what the next person will pay for them. p.s. Ebay normally only ban repeat offenders so just list your DVDs one at a time, if anyone complains they will remove it and then you stop listing it. What DVD is it anyway? does it have printed label or cover?
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of tom dawson Sent: 23 September 2013 17:28 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
Don't get me wrong. I am one of the first to buy a good bootleg. Having had all the lost sounds of Mu CDs all the Orb rare collection CDs and numerous other artists live LPs and CDs over the years.
I still have a load of KLF DVDs to pass on but daren't put them on Ebay in case I get banned.
Sent from my iPhone
On 23 Sep 2013, at 15:20, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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If I remember correctly it is the 'Omnibus' documentary on the KLF. Sent from my iPhone On 24 Sep 2013, at 18:13, "noel johnson" <nrjmusic2k@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Burning Money and Beyond whats is this ?
From: tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013, 15:56 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
All these DVDs were purchased some 15 years ago - all have colour sleeves The KLF - 1991 The Work The KLF - 1991 The Work - Special Extended Version Waiting K Foundation Burn a Million Quid Burning Money and Beyond The White Room (1989 Soundtrack) Stadium House - The Trilogy
From: blindedbythedarkness@ntlworld.com To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 01:20:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
I have 5 DVDs filled with thousands of unreleased live Rolling Stones tunes, concerts and jam sessions, from the 60's to a few years back. I bought them from ebay and would never have been able to get them from a shop, it's the rarest collection I have ever seen. Things are only worth what the next person will pay for them. p.s. Ebay normally only ban repeat offenders so just list your DVDs one at a time, if anyone complains they will remove it and then you stop listing it. What DVD is it anyway? does it have printed label or cover?
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of tom dawson Sent: 23 September 2013 17:28 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
Don't get me wrong. I am one of the first to buy a good bootleg. Having had all the lost sounds of Mu CDs all the Orb rare collection CDs and numerous other artists live LPs and CDs over the years.
I still have a load of KLF DVDs to pass on but daren't put them on Ebay in case I get banned.
Sent from my iPhone
On 23 Sep 2013, at 15:20, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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Yes the 100s of Love Trance bootlegs virtually wiped out the value of my original 'labelled up' copy :-( The fake 'mother stampers' finally went under the hammer after the bootleggers had exhausted the market with numerous coloured vinyl pressings. Popsike recorded the sale. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013, 15:18 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable. There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said. I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank. +1 for the Moonshine though ;) -- anttil. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
On 30.9.2013 19:49, Len Goody wrote:
Yes the 100s of Love Trance bootlegs virtually wiped out the value of my original 'labelled up' copy :-(
The fake 'mother stampers' finally went under the hammer after the bootleggers had exhausted the market with numerous coloured vinyl pressings. Popsike recorded the sale <http://www.popsike.com/KLF-006TA1-B1-SINGLE-SIDE-12-INCH-MOTHER-STAMPERS/130433621284.html>.
I wonder where did these surface, because I still don't think that this version was original KLF. PVC version fits perfectly to KLF style, especially when it was mixed with Kraftwerks The Model but not this. But then, if this wasn't KLF, how the hell did they have access and how did they heard "original" version... Was your original labeled same version as those ebay versions? -- anttil.
Adam Stalker who did remaster work on both versions thinks they are both related, original KLF tracks with the ambient version being the earlier of the two. Dan
On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 30.9.2013 19:49, Len Goody wrote:
Yes the 100s of Love Trance bootlegs virtually wiped out the value of my original 'labelled up' copy :-(
The fake 'mother stampers' finally went under the hammer after the bootleggers had exhausted the market with numerous coloured vinyl pressings. Popsike recorded the sale <http://www.popsike.com/KLF-006TA1-B1-SINGLE-SIDE-12-INCH-MOTHER-STAMPERS/130433621284.html>.
I wonder where did these surface, because I still don't think that this version was original KLF. PVC version fits perfectly to KLF style, especially when it was mixed with Kraftwerks The Model but not this.
But then, if this wasn't KLF, how the hell did they have access and how did they heard "original" version...
Was your original labeled same version as those ebay versions?
-- anttil.
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On 30.9.2013 21:18, Dan T. Hutchins wrote:
Adam Stalker who did remaster work on both versions thinks they are both related, original KLF tracks with the ambient version being the earlier of the two.
And ambient version is pvc's Pure Truth version? Just to avoid misunderstandings here :) -- anttil.
________________________________ Now i've never seen this before! http://www.discogs.com/KLF-Kylie-Said-To-Jason/release/1985201 Would look nice alongside my purple one! _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
I contacted the guy asking for a pic as i'd never seen one either Sent from KITT
On 1 Oct 2013, at 10:10, Tim Tim <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Now i've never seen this before!
http://www.discogs.com/KLF-Kylie-Said-To-Jason/release/1985201
Would look nice alongside my purple one!
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Superb! Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
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Now i've never seen this before!
http://www.discogs.com/KLF-Kylie-Said-To-Jason/release/1985201
Would look nice alongside my purple one!
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On 1.10.2013 12:10, Tim Tim wrote:
*http://www.discogs.com/KLF-Kylie-Said-To-Jason/release/1985201 *
Would look nice alongside my purple one!
It's weird that this haven't surfaced earlier. I'm quite sure that it is genuine, but just saying.. On the other hand, 7" came in purple version so why not have red 12". Although this is PROMO2, not 010T version but that's why. -- anttil.
So this raises the question what they have had pressed on coloured vinyl; Klf004x clear and blue 12" Klf010 7" purple Klf promo Kylie red 12" J&a yellow and red 12" Klfusa4 multi coloured 028t grey 5totp 92promo2 clear (or is this a boot?) ... Gr. Maarten Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Op 1 okt. 2013 om 12:58 heeft Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> het volgende geschreven:
On 1.10.2013 12:10, Tim Tim wrote:
*http://www.discogs.com/KLF-Kylie-Said-To-Jason/release/1985201 *
Would look nice alongside my purple one!
It's weird that this haven't surfaced earlier. I'm quite sure that it is genuine, but just saying..
On the other hand, 7" came in purple version so why not have red 12". Although this is PROMO2, not 010T version but that's why.
-- anttil.
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028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version. Sent from my iPhone On 1 Oct 2013, at 21:46, "Maarten Bouwes" <maarten@bouwes.nl> wrote:
So this raises the question what they have had pressed on coloured vinyl;
Klf004x clear and blue 12" Klf010 7" purple Klf promo Kylie red 12" J&a yellow and red 12" Klfusa4 multi coloured 028t grey 5totp 92promo2 clear (or is this a boot?) ...
Gr. Maarten
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Op 1 okt. 2013 om 12:58 heeft Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> het volgende geschreven:
On 1.10.2013 12:10, Tim Tim wrote:
*http://www.discogs.com/KLF-Kylie-Said-To-Jason/release/1985201 *
Would look nice alongside my purple one!
It's weird that this haven't surfaced earlier. I'm quite sure that it is genuine, but just saying..
On the other hand, 7" came in purple version so why not have red 12". Although this is PROMO2, not 010T version but that's why.
-- anttil.
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I still have the sales listing sheet from Stefan at Groovecheck. He lists 12" JAMMS:Its Grim Up North (Unreleased silver vinyl sampler for the eventual release of grey vinyl edition) £75 - this would have been about 1995. Looking at his listings he also has for sale a J&A 7" in clear vinyl. Sent from my iPhone On 2 Oct 2013, at 06:40, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
-- anttil.
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I think we need a complete list of colored vinyl! Feel free to add! KLF 006T Clear [boot] KLF 006T Marbled [boot] KLF 010 Purple KLF 010T Red KLF 004X Blue KLF 004X Clear KLF 028T Silver? KLF 028T Grey KLF USA 4 Multicolored KLF USA 4X Grey [W/L] KLF USA 4X Grey [labelled] KLF Promo 2 Clear KLF PD1 Pic Disc KLF 099 Red KLF 099 Orange KLF 099 Clear KLF 099X Yellow KLF 099X Red KLF 5TOTP Clear KLF 5TOTP Yellow KLF 5TOTP Orange KLF 5TOTP Mustard Lost Colored Vinyl of Mu! Over & Out. ________________________________ From: tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 7:45 Subject: Re: [KLF] Kylie on Red Vinyl! I still have the sales listing sheet from Stefan at Groovecheck. He lists 12" JAMMS:Its Grim Up North (Unreleased silver vinyl sampler for the eventual release of grey vinyl edition) £75 - this would have been about 1995. Looking at his listings he also has for sale a J&A 7" in clear vinyl. Sent from my iPhone On 2 Oct 2013, at 06:40, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
-- anttil.
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2 More KLF 003P Shaped clear vinyl/pic CHOCICE2/KLFUSA4X J&A/AWTIL pic Sent from my iPhone On 2 Oct 2013, at 10:15, "Tim Tim" <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I think we need a complete list of colored vinyl! Feel free to add!
KLF 006T Clear [boot] KLF 006T Marbled [boot] KLF 010 Purple KLF 010T Red KLF 004X Blue KLF 004X Clear KLF 028T Silver? KLF 028T Grey KLF USA 4 Multicolored KLF USA 4X Grey [W/L] KLF USA 4X Grey [labelled] KLF Promo 2 Clear KLF PD1 Pic Disc KLF 099 Red KLF 099 Orange KLF 099 Clear KLF 099X Yellow KLF 099X Red KLF 5TOTP Clear KLF 5TOTP Yellow KLF 5TOTP Orange KLF 5TOTP Mustard
Lost Colored Vinyl of Mu!
Over & Out.
From: tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 7:45 Subject: Re: [KLF] Kylie on Red Vinyl!
I still have the sales listing sheet from Stefan at Groovecheck. He lists 12" JAMMS:Its Grim Up North (Unreleased silver vinyl sampler for the eventual release of grey vinyl edition) £75 - this would have been about 1995.
Looking at his listings he also has for sale a J&A 7" in clear vinyl.
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On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
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The 028T Grey Version test pressing was a white label on standard black vinyl, and I've only ever seen one for sale. Stampers more likely but unsure, I must have missed their sale. On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago? -- anttil.
It was definitely listed as a Silver Vinyl version and not a stamper. Someone must have bought it. Come on own up... Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2013, at 11:05, "Len Goody" <len7@btinternet.com> wrote:
The 028T Grey Version test pressing was a white label on standard black vinyl, and I've only ever seen one for sale.
Stampers more likely but unsure, I must have missed their sale.
On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
-- anttil.
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Silver, grey...same thing :) I've seen also normal grey listed as silverish grey on ebay. I've also seen black test press with white labels, but you never know. -- anttil. On 4.10.2013 13:14, tom dawson wrote:
It was definitely listed as a Silver Vinyl version and not a stamper. Someone must have bought it. Come on own up...
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On 4 Oct 2013, at 11:05, "Len Goody" <len7@btinternet.com <mailto:len7@btinternet.com>> wrote:
The 028T Grey Version test pressing was a white label on standard black vinyl, and I've only ever seen one for sale.
Stampers more likely but unsure, I must have missed their sale.
On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
-- anttil.
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As far as i'm aware PVC still owns the stampers for 028T, I have 3 different pressings for 028T one is a 'black' label test from back in the day, and a white label that I have reason to believe was pressed up on a seperate run, which I purchased off of ebay a couple of years ago, but the runouts all check out as genuine. The reason I think it is a seperate run is the style of the centre. The stampers that sold on ebay recently were for the 7" Jams 028. ________________________________ From: Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> To: "klf@mailman.xmission.com" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013, 11:03 Subject: [KLF] Fw: Kylie on Red Vinyl! The 028T Grey Version test pressing was a white label on standard black vinyl, and I've only ever seen one for sale. Stampers more likely but unsure, I must have missed their sale. On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago? -- anttil. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
The 7" 028 stampers were mine and now have a home in Australia. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2013, at 12:18, "Tim Tim" <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
As far as i'm aware PVC still owns the stampers for 028T, I have 3 different pressings for 028T one is a 'black' label test from back in the day, and a white label that I have reason to believe was pressed up on a seperate run, which I purchased off of ebay a couple of years ago, but the runouts all check out as genuine. The reason I think it is a seperate run is the style of the centre.
The stampers that sold on ebay recently were for the 7" Jams 028. From: Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> To: "klf@mailman.xmission.com" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013, 11:03 Subject: [KLF] Fw: Kylie on Red Vinyl!
The 028T Grey Version test pressing was a white label on standard black vinyl, and I've only ever seen one for sale.
Stampers more likely but unsure, I must have missed their sale.
On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
-- anttil.
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I still think there is a silver vinyl version of Pete Wylie GUN in existence out there somewhere - the guy knew his stuff. I will scan the original sales listing sheets. He certainly had access to some special stuff. Some of which I purchased back in the day. He also lists some one sided White Room acetates too. Who's got those? Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2013, at 12:30, "tom dawson" <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> wrote:
The 7" 028 stampers were mine and now have a home in Australia.
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On 4 Oct 2013, at 12:18, "Tim Tim" <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
As far as i'm aware PVC still owns the stampers for 028T, I have 3 different pressings for 028T one is a 'black' label test from back in the day, and a white label that I have reason to believe was pressed up on a seperate run, which I purchased off of ebay a couple of years ago, but the runouts all check out as genuine. The reason I think it is a seperate run is the style of the centre.
The stampers that sold on ebay recently were for the 7" Jams 028. From: Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> To: "klf@mailman.xmission.com" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013, 11:03 Subject: [KLF] Fw: Kylie on Red Vinyl!
The 028T Grey Version test pressing was a white label on standard black vinyl, and I've only ever seen one for sale.
Stampers more likely but unsure, I must have missed their sale.
On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
-- anttil.
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Oops sorry my mistake - Energy Music listed those (White Room Acetates) Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2013, at 13:11, "tom dawson" <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> wrote:
I still think there is a silver vinyl version of Pete Wylie GUN in existence out there somewhere - the guy knew his stuff. I will scan the original sales listing sheets. He certainly had access to some special stuff. Some of which I purchased back in the day. He also lists some one sided White Room acetates too. Who's got those?
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On 4 Oct 2013, at 12:30, "tom dawson" <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> wrote:
The 7" 028 stampers were mine and now have a home in Australia.
Sent from my iPhone
On 4 Oct 2013, at 12:18, "Tim Tim" <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
As far as i'm aware PVC still owns the stampers for 028T, I have 3 different pressings for 028T one is a 'black' label test from back in the day, and a white label that I have reason to believe was pressed up on a seperate run, which I purchased off of ebay a couple of years ago, but the runouts all check out as genuine. The reason I think it is a seperate run is the style of the centre.
The stampers that sold on ebay recently were for the 7" Jams 028. From: Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> To: "klf@mailman.xmission.com" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013, 11:03 Subject: [KLF] Fw: Kylie on Red Vinyl!
The 028T Grey Version test pressing was a white label on standard black vinyl, and I've only ever seen one for sale.
Stampers more likely but unsure, I must have missed their sale.
On 2.10.2013 0:38, tom dawson wrote:
028t Silver (Don't own it but saw it for sale once) supposed to be test of Grey Version.
Are you sure that these were not the stampers, because they were on sale few months (years? ago?
-- anttil.
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On 4.10.2013 15:24, tom dawson wrote:
Oops sorry my mistake - Energy Music listed those (White Room Acetates)
White Room acetates do exists, they were sold on ebay some time ago. There was 3 of them, probably more exists. All of them were 1-sided 45rpm acetates, "JAMSLP6 (TEST)" on label with red "Internal Use" stamp. On other sides there were hand written "What Time Is Love LP Test", "3 AM 1 + KLF Album test" or "Last Train To Trancentral No Fade" tracks were 1st: What Time Is Love (lp mix) 2nd: 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l.) and Curch Of The KLF 3rd: Last Train To Trancentral (lp mix) -- anttil.
Acetates are very rare indeed! They just don't turn up. Especially in Mint condition, as they're only good for a few plays before they start to deteriorate. The sound quality on a new acetate is exceptional. ________________________________ From: Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013, 13:58 Subject: Re: [KLF] Fw: Kylie on Red Vinyl! On 4.10.2013 15:24, tom dawson wrote:
Oops sorry my mistake - Energy Music listed those (White Room Acetates)
White Room acetates do exists, they were sold on ebay some time ago. There was 3 of them, probably more exists. All of them were 1-sided 45rpm acetates, "JAMSLP6 (TEST)" on label with red "Internal Use" stamp. On other sides there were hand written "What Time Is Love LP Test", "3 AM 1 + KLF Album test" or "Last Train To Trancentral No Fade" tracks were 1st: What Time Is Love (lp mix) 2nd: 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l.) and Curch Of The KLF 3rd: Last Train To Trancentral (lp mix) -- anttil. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
TWR 3 x 12" acetate sale on ebay has been recorded on popsike... http://www.popsike.com/KLF-What-Time-Is-Love-ACETATE-UK-12-ORIG-WHITE-LABEL/... http://www.popsike.com/KLF-3AM-Church-ACETATE-UK-12-ORIG-WHITE-LABEL-LP-Vers... http://www.popsike.com/KLF-Last-Train-ACETATE-UK-12-ORIG-WHITE-LABEL-LP-Vers... I remember these go up for sale, listed as 3 separate auctions and seem to recallthat the same bidder secured all three, so they didn't get split up. ----- Forwarded Message ----- Acetates are very rare indeed! They just don't turn up. Especially in Mint condition, as they're only good for a few plays before they start to deteriorate. The sound quality on a new acetate is exceptional. ________________________________ On 4.10.2013 15:24, tom dawson wrote:
Oops sorry my mistake - Energy Music listed those (White Room Acetates)
White Room acetates do exists, they were sold on ebay some time ago. There was 3 of them, probably more exists. All of them were 1-sided 45rpm acetates, "JAMSLP6 (TEST)" on label with red "Internal Use" stamp. On other sides there were hand written "What Time Is Love LP Test", "3 AM 1 + KLF Album test" or "Last Train To Trancentral No Fade" tracks were 1st: What Time Is Love (lp mix) 2nd: 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l.) and Curch Of The KLF 3rd: Last Train To Trancentral (lp mix) -- anttil.
Yeah well maybe the sound quality is great, but what's the point to owe them then besides collecting if you can't play them more than a few times? I really would only shelf out money for otherwise unreleased tracks. Am 04.10.2013 15:07, schrieb Tim Tim:
Acetates are very rare indeed! They just don't turn up. Especially in Mint condition, as they're only good for a few plays before they start to deteriorate. The sound quality on a new acetate is exceptional.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> *To:* klf@mailman.xmission.com *Sent:* Friday, 4 October 2013, 13:58 *Subject:* Re: [KLF] Fw: Kylie on Red Vinyl!
On 4.10.2013 15:24, tom dawson wrote:
Oops sorry my mistake - Energy Music listed those (White Room Acetates)
White Room acetates do exists, they were sold on ebay some time ago.
There was 3 of them, probably more exists.
All of them were 1-sided 45rpm acetates, "JAMSLP6 (TEST)" on label with red "Internal Use" stamp.
On other sides there were hand written "What Time Is Love LP Test", "3 AM 1 + KLF Album test" or "Last Train To Trancentral No Fade"
tracks were
1st: What Time Is Love (lp mix)
2nd: 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l.) and Curch Of The KLF
3rd: Last Train To Trancentral (lp mix)
-- anttil.
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cars10 skrev 2013-10-05 10:00:
Yeah well maybe the sound quality is great, but what's the point to owe them then besides collecting if you can't play them more than a few times? I really would only shelf out money for otherwise unreleased tracks.
Here's how you play it without damaging the record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnGh7FADitg
Am 04.10.2013 15:07, schrieb Tim Tim:
Acetates are very rare indeed! They just don't turn up. Especially in Mint condition, as they're only good for a few plays before they start to deteriorate. The sound quality on a new acetate is exceptional.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> *To:* klf@mailman.xmission.com *Sent:* Friday, 4 October 2013, 13:58 *Subject:* Re: [KLF] Fw: Kylie on Red Vinyl!
On 4.10.2013 15:24, tom dawson wrote:
Oops sorry my mistake - Energy Music listed those (White Room
Acetates)
White Room acetates do exists, they were sold on ebay some time ago.
There was 3 of them, probably more exists.
All of them were 1-sided 45rpm acetates, "JAMSLP6 (TEST)" on label with red "Internal Use" stamp.
On other sides there were hand written "What Time Is Love LP Test", "3 AM 1 + KLF Album test" or "Last Train To Trancentral No Fade"
tracks were
1st: What Time Is Love (lp mix)
2nd: 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l.) and Curch Of The KLF
3rd: Last Train To Trancentral (lp mix)
-- anttil.
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5TOTP Clear and Mustard 7" KLF 99 Orange 7" KLF USA4X Grey 12" Sent from my iPhone On 1 Oct 2013, at 21:46, "Maarten Bouwes" <maarten@bouwes.nl> wrote:
So this raises the question what they have had pressed on coloured vinyl;
Klf004x clear and blue 12" Klf010 7" purple Klf promo Kylie red 12" J&a yellow and red 12" Klfusa4 multi coloured 028t grey 5totp 92promo2 clear (or is this a boot?) ...
Gr. Maarten
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Op 1 okt. 2013 om 12:58 heeft Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> het volgende geschreven:
On 1.10.2013 12:10, Tim Tim wrote:
*http://www.discogs.com/KLF-Kylie-Said-To-Jason/release/1985201 *
Would look nice alongside my purple one!
It's weird that this haven't surfaced earlier. I'm quite sure that it is genuine, but just saying..
On the other hand, 7" came in purple version so why not have red 12". Although this is PROMO2, not 010T version but that's why.
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The 'original' labelled up copy that sold last year still sold for a cool £830! Would it have fetched more if it wasn't for the flood of boots? I'm not sure. I think there' too much uncertainty on this record for it to hit the £1000 mark. Btw the highest price one of the recent marbled/clear versions went for was £390. The stampers were a bargain at £100. http://www.popsike.com/KLFLOVE-TRANCEWHAT-TIME-IS-LOVE-KLF-006-TA1B1/1400643... ________________________________ From: Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> To: "klf@mailman.xmission.com" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, 30 September 2013, 17:49 Subject: [KLF] Fw: bootlegging Yes the 100s of Love Trance bootlegs virtually wiped out the value of my original 'labelled up' copy :-( The fake 'mother stampers' finally went under the hammer after the bootleggers had exhausted the market with numerous coloured vinyl pressings. Popsike recorded the sale. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013, 15:18 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable. There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said. I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank. +1 for the Moonshine though ;) -- anttil. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
That would be mine then :-) Sent from my iPhone On 1 Oct 2013, at 10:09, "Tim Tim" <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
The 'original' labelled up copy that sold last year still sold for a cool £830! Would it have fetched more if it wasn't for the flood of boots? I'm not sure.
I think there' too much uncertainty on this record for it to hit the £1000 mark.
Btw the highest price one of the recent marbled/clear versions went for was £390. The stampers were a bargain at £100.
http://www.popsike.com/KLFLOVE-TRANCEWHAT-TIME-IS-LOVE-KLF-006-TA1B1/1400643...
From: Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> To: "klf@mailman.xmission.com" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, 30 September 2013, 17:49 Subject: [KLF] Fw: bootlegging
Yes the 100s of Love Trance bootlegs virtually wiped out the value of my original 'labelled up' copy :-(
The fake 'mother stampers' finally went under the hammer after the bootleggers had exhausted the market with numerous coloured vinyl pressings. Popsike recorded the sale.
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013, 15:18 Subject: Re: [KLF] bootlegging
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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I recall that first boots/counterfeits/marbles went over 1000£? Can't find it from popsike, but somehow I don't think it collects all of them. I might remember wrong too.. ;) -- anttil. On 1.10.2013 12:12, tom dawson wrote:
That would be mine then :-)
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On 1 Oct 2013, at 10:09, "Tim Tim" <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
The 'original' labelled up copy that sold last year still sold for a cool £830! Would it have fetched more if it wasn't for the flood of boots? I'm not sure.
I think there' too much uncertainty on this record for it to hit the £1000 mark.
Btw the highest price one of the recent marbled/clear versions went for was £390. The stampers were a bargain at £100.
http://www.popsike.com/KLFLOVE-TRANCEWHAT-TIME-IS-LOVE-KLF-006-TA1B1/1400643...
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com <mailto:len7@btinternet.com>> *To:* "klf@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:klf@mailman.xmission.com>" <klf@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:klf@mailman.xmission.com>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 September 2013, 17:49 *Subject:* [KLF] Fw: bootlegging
Yes the 100s of Love Trance bootlegs virtually wiped out the value of my original 'labelled up' copy :-(
The fake 'mother stampers' finally went under the hammer after the bootleggers had exhausted the market with numerous coloured vinyl pressings. Popsike recorded the sale <http://www.popsike.com/KLF-006TA1-B1-SINGLE-SIDE-12-INCH-MOTHER-STAMPERS/130433621284.html>.
----- Forwarded Message ----- *From:* Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org <mailto:antti.lavio@possu.org>> *To:* All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:klf@mailman.xmission.com>> *Sent:* Monday, 23 September 2013, 15:18 *Subject:* Re: [KLF] bootlegging
On 23.9.2013 16:55, Elliott wrote:
At the end of the day bootlegs are extremely collectable, I sold my Italian Madrugada bootleg vinyl an age ago but still wish I had it, I also have a nice collection of ultra rare trax Vol 1 - 10 Rolling Stones CD's, they are all bootlegs but look V nice in my CD rack. Also moonshine is made by bootleggers, and I like a bit of that.
I would say SOME bootlegs are extremely collectable.
There is still difference between publicly sold bootlegs that have been printed 5000 copies and bootlegs that are for limited number of exclusive people, like Tom Said.
I guess almost everybody remembers Love Trance craze couple of years ago? First "marble" ones went for +1000£ and in the end, you could get single sided press for 20£. Whoever did that, laughed all the way to the bank.
+1 for the Moonshine though ;)
-- anttil.
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