RE: Re: AW: [KLF] Is this the KLF font?
The sleeves wew done by Slim Smith at Designland. He used to boast he could design a record sleeve in an hour. If you look at Mute sleeves from the same era you can see the design similarities. I'm guessing he used quark on a Mac. What was the state of pro DTP in the late 80s early 90s? Andy
I checked the Swiss 921 font you mentioned, but that is not the one either:
- The capital 'F', 'E' etc. are much wider, the horizontal lines are too long - The capital 'K' is not as symetric as KLF's, the two diagonal lines collide too far to the top of the vertical center of the character itself. - The 'M' is vertically too thin
Perhaps they did use it for some of their smaller texts as Compacta is really not suited for that, that /is/ worth a little investigation...
All in all, when looking at the WhatThatFont website, the Compacta really matched the 2K single's sleeve the best! Ofcourse, it could be that the font renders a little bit differently on a Mac than on a Windows PC, that maybe explains the little weeny differences there are in spacing of the characters...
And remember, the KLF used a Atari ST back then, perhaps they made their sleeves on it too? Perhaps we should be looking for a Atari font then?
Oh well, what a nice discussion this is, 100% KLF mailing list in action once again :)
---- Mange <liberationloophole@yahoo.se> schrijft:
I think they use two fonts from the Helvetica family tree Check for the characteristic "4" that appears on the back of SPACE and most of the singles:
www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/helvetica-inserat/familytree.html
I used the Swiss 921 when i did the back cover to my "The Singles" compilation
The Compacta font is wrong! ;-)
mange
--- Peter Mann <Peter.Mann@tuke.sk> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 10:31:49AM +0100, Daniel Erlemann wrote:
As far as I can judge it, it's probably a Helvetica Condensed that Bill uses and that the KLF have used on Shag Times for example (inner sleeve). Just a thought...
try sample text:
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/compacta/?PREFS_SET[RenderString]=The%20K LF
and
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/letraset/helvetica-condensed/?PREFS_SET[RenderStri ng]=The%20KLF
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The sleeves wew done by Slim Smith at Designland.
Do you know him? If you got a contact address we could easily ask him and clear up one of the older questions! I think that the Compacta font (that was available as true type with early Corel Draw 3 packages) is only a cheaper "copy" of the original font which name probably has never been mentioned on this list. I'm a graphic designer and working in an agency but there's not many similar fonts in any of the font books I've seen. There was one but I cannot remember the name... argh! So we got two questions open: What is the KLF logo font? What is the font they used for the inner sleeves and the descriptions on the 12 inch labels of the early eighties? Dan --- a.k.a. Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de)
Annoyingly, my auction for the above CD has been stopped by Ebay (a complaint by Razormaid in the US, apparently). Therefore, I'd like to sell it through the list. CD is MINT, packaging near mint. Any questions, please ask - and shall we say, highest bidder (within reason) by 12 noon on Sunday wins? Is this what happened before Ebay? ;-) John
On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:37, andy@adlee.co.uk wrote:
The sleeves wew done by Slim Smith at Designland. He used to boast he could design a record sleeve in an hour. If you look at Mute sleeves from the same era you can see the design similarities. I'm guessing he used quark on a Mac. What was the state of pro DTP in the late 80s early 90s?
late 80s early 90s? for DTP it had to be either Quark or Pagemaker on a Mac i seem to remember that for more artsy DTP (where pictures were the main interest), Quark was the prefered choice, although for more page- layout orientated DTP (where presenting the text best was the priority) then Pagemaker (when it was Aldus PageMaker, not Adobe iirc) was far more powerful. i would expect the text was stretched slightly horizontally and vertically to make it fit the sleve designs anyway, so you'll never be able to tell the correct font by scanning them in - the only way to be sure will be to recreate the sleeves from scratch, put the text in and make it fit, and then overlay a scan of the original and see how close you can get it to match certainly, in the past, i've had far more luck with Compacta Bold with horizontal scaling than with any other font family
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