thanks john... it seems that if i ask a question on here, this jerry person seems to reply with a not very funny at all remark..... so i sent him a reply last night.... here it is No Jeza, I asked what i wanted.... you see this list is so much better than GOOGLE for most things Bill & Jimmy..... you should know this if you've been a member for longer than a week. I think i made my point.... Wizard Keep Listening forever