Re: [KLF] 3AM Eternal Welcome to The Moon Mix 1989
There would be a recut for the main run. picture discs are made in a different way to regular records. A thin flyer heat resistant like the labels are put onto a thin central part, then clear vinyl parts added on top. If i remember correctly, 'orlake' were one of the only pressing plants which did picture discs. They pressed a lot of their records at Damont audio in Hayes. I would assume they may have done one or the other and thought... Actually this version has a better mixdown etc. And used that on whichever was pressed second. I.used to work down the road from Damont above the EMI pressing plant. Orlake also did colour vinyl. There was another plant i can't remember the name of correctly(acid ?) which later went bust and restarted as pr press. I hope one day my useless info will solve a mystery in the Klf back cat! At one stage i could tell the difference between plants by picking up the vinyl in my hands and flexing it.! Sent from Samsung Mobile Tim Tim <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Thanks for the insight on that, but how would that explain USA 4X A1 and USA 4X A2? A1 being the uncensored version on the pic disc and a few TP' and A2 being the regular 12" release being a minute shorter. Thats what made me think that Jams LP6 A1/B1 might be different version. From: John P <jondoeclsm@hotmail.co.uk> To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2013, 10:25 Subject: Re: [KLF] 3AM Eternal Welcome to The Moon Mix 1989 You can also grow new plates from the original laquer set. From: ruskprick@hotmail.com To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:35:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [KLF] 3AM Eternal Welcome to The Moon Mix 1989 The A2/B2 inscription in the run out groove has nothing to do with the catalogue number. It is just a pressing plate index number. I've made a few records myself so I might be able to give a little insight into the process. The first lacquer to be made is given the index A1 (for side A). If the test pressing proves to be satisfactory they go ahead with the production. However if there is something wrong, some minor glitch or something like that, they might have to make a new pressing plate, or even a new lacquer. That second lacquer is given the index number A2. Higher index numbers can also indicate that they have made more than one pressing plate, to be able to manufacture the record in more than one pressing machine (or even in more than one record plant), which is (was) a common practice with records that were expected to sell lots of copies. For example, the original pressings of Never Mind The Bollocks were made from loads of different pressing plates, but they did still contain the same tracks. http://www.philjens.plus.com/pistols/pistols/pistols_nmtb.htm > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:05:19 +0000 (GMT) > From: Tim Tim > To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." > Subject: Re: [KLF] 3AM Eternal Welcome to The Moon Mix 1989 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree here or just barking! But with so many unreleased recordings kicking about > surely?there must have been some acetates pressed up. Towards the Trance LP, The White Room OST wasn't there > a TP rumoured to exist? 008T? 3x Acetates of 004M are known to exist. DS1? > It was common practise in the day to press up acetates brfore making a final decision to release?a record. > For example The White Room is Jams?LP6 A2/B2.?Were is A1/B1? Was it the Original white room ost or something else? > Or a more simple explanation maybe it just wasn't fit for release. > Either way?the 1st press of?Jams?lp6 has?never to my knowledge surfaced, and it could hold the answer to many?questions.? The A2/B2 inscription in the run out groove has nothing to do with the catalogue number. It is just a pressing plate index number. I've made a few records myself so I might be able to give a little insight into the process. The first lacquer to be made is given the index A1 (for side A). If the test pressing proves to be satisfactory they go ahead with the production. However if there is something wrong, some minor glitch or something like that, they might have to make a new pressing plate, or even a new lacquer. That second lacquer is given the index number A2. Higher index numbers can also indicate that they have made more than one pressing plate, to be able to manufacture the record in more than one pressing machine (or even in more than one record plant), which is (was) a common practice with records that were expected to sell lots of copies. For example, the original pressings of Never Mind The Bollocks were made from loads of different pressing plates, but they did still contain the same tracks. http://www.philjens.plus.com/pistols/pistols/pistols_nmtb.htm
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:05:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Tim Tim <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [KLF] 3AM Eternal Welcome to The Moon Mix 1989 Message-ID: <1360944319.66072.YahooMailNeo@web171602.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree here or just barking! But with so many unreleased recordings kicking about surely?there must have been some acetates pressed up. Towards the Trance LP, The White Room OST wasn't there a TP rumoured to exist? 008T? 3x Acetates of 004M are known to exist. DS1? It was common practise in the day to press up acetates brfore making a final decision to release?a record. For example The White Room is Jams?LP6 A2/B2.?Were is A1/B1? Was it the Original white room ost or something else? Or a more simple explanation maybe it just wasn't fit for release. Either way?the 1st press of?Jams?lp6 has?never to my knowledge surfaced, and it could hold the answer to many?questions.?
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