aren't those really two different subjects put together?
in other words, aren't the lyrics specifically performed for "go to sleep" the first part, and the "and then I hear..." is from the original "last train"?
Nobody has ever heard the original "last train" (we had this discussion some weeks ago). But the unreleased "Go To Sleep" dates farther back than the oldest KNOWN version of "Last Train". These lyrics might all be recorded for "Go To Sleep", and then later reused in klf08 (the oldest known versions of LTTT).
I never did understand what the verdict was either! from what I gathered, things like "E-train" were never pressed, and any that exist today are only bootlegs with the labels that were meant for the unreleased, unpressed originals what I specifically meant to get across was the fact that the phrase "and then I hear" (from the "wichita lineman" / "chill out" version) sounds identical to the phrase in "go to sleep" (from "the white room" soundtrack), but doesn't mach the sound of the reverb/effects/ambience that the spoken lyrics that the rest of the "go to sleep" have also, I understood that, as far as release dates go, "go to sleep" and "last train" were originally scheduled for the same day to my ears, "go to sleep" SOUNDS later than "wichita", or, for example, the "1989 pure trance" version of "last train" agree? disagree?
I think it's safe to assume that E-Train... and Last Train... are one and the same thing, with them both having been assigned identical catalogue numbers and release dates. I do wonder what the inspiration behind the name "E-Train To Trancentral" was (I agree that it could be to do with late '80s UK rave/drug culture), although I've always assumed "Last Train To Trancentral" was so called after The Monkees "Last Train To Clarksville" (the Monkees featured briefly on "1987") I agree that Last Train (or whatever) and Go To Sleep are odd, given that they seem to share much of the same stuff but were both scheduled for release. Of course, the final Go To Sleep could, just as the LP version of Last Train To Trancentral was, be very different from the version we're used to. Again, even though Go To Sleep was scheduled (did they run off sleeves for it?) it seems it wasn't ever going to be part of the Pure Trance series. Someone on the list has already pointed out that PT5 was possibly the last one as it's the only one that doesn't have "Welcome To The Trance" under "Other Data" on the vinyl label; instead having "Go To Sleep". Finally, where does "Lover's Side" fit into all this? It seems to be intimately linked with Last Train To Trancentral, but I can't for the life of me figure out why...
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aren't those really two different subjects put together?
in other words, aren't the lyrics specifically performed for "go to sleep" the first part, and the "and then I hear..." is from the original "last train"?
Nobody has ever heard the original "last train" (we had this discussion some weeks ago). But the unreleased "Go To Sleep" dates farther back than the oldest KNOWN version of "Last Train". These lyrics might all be recorded for "Go To Sleep", and then later reused in klf08 (the oldest known versions of LTTT).
I never did understand what the verdict was either!
from what I gathered, things like "E-train" were never pressed, and any that exist today are only bootlegs with the labels that were meant for the unreleased, unpressed originals
what I specifically meant to get across was the fact that the phrase "and then I hear" (from the "wichita lineman" / "chill out" version) sounds identical to the phrase in "go to sleep" (from "the white room" soundtrack), but doesn't mach the sound of the reverb/effects/ambience that the spoken lyrics that the rest of the "go to sleep" have
also, I understood that, as far as release dates go, "go to sleep" and "last train" were originally scheduled for the same day
to my ears, "go to sleep" SOUNDS later than "wichita", or, for example, the "1989 pure trance" version of "last train"
agree? disagree?
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version we're used to. Again, even though Go To Sleep was scheduled (did they run off sleeves for it?) it seems it wasn't ever going to be part of the Pure Trance series. Someone on the list has already pointed out that PT5 was possibly the last one as it's the only one that doesn't have "Welcome To The Trance" under "Other Data" on the vinyl label; instead having "Go To Sleep".
Go to Sleep was originally a pure trance song, then later planned as KLF012
Finally, where does "Lover's Side" fit into all this? It seems to be intimately linked with Last Train To Trancentral, but I can't for the life of me figure out why...
Why do you find this linked to "last train"?? Lover's side was both scheduled as the B-side on "pt5: E-train" and the A-side of "pt5: Lovers side" with "Go To Sleep" as B-side. Besides this "PT5: The White Room" have also been planned (any info on this one, could be the version heard in the "primal megamix"?). Have anyone a good explanation why "Kylie said to Jason" KLF10T had pure trance labels (the only one with barcodes I think), was it briefly planned as a part of the serie??? Ulrik
Why do you find this linked to "last train"?? Lover's side was both scheduled as the B-side on "pt5: E-train" and the A-side of "pt5: Lovers side" with "Go To Sleep" as B-side. Besides this "PT5: The White Room" have also been planned (any info on this one, could be
They sound alike, as someone else mentioned, but the first time I ever heard the "Go To Sleep" chorus was on one of ot the LTTT remix maxi cds. jr
Have anyone a good explanation why "Kylie said to Jason" KLF10T had pure trance labels (the only one with barcodes I think), was it briefly planned as a part of the serie???
Actually, the Pure Trance label is on the b-side. And I think "Kylie in a Trance" pretty much fits into the Pure Trance series. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Jetzt ein- oder umsteigen und USB-Speicheruhr als Prämie sichern!
Or maybe after country & western song 'Last Train To San Fernando'; I guess we'll never know. David Simpson ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Peel <munkie@cloud9ine.com> To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Re: "go to sleep" I've always assumed
"Last Train To Trancentral" was so called after The Monkees "Last Train To Clarksville" (the Monkees featured briefly on "1987")
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