Does Blacksmoke's Silent Night send shivers down your spine? I get goosepimples every time. "Harrowing" is the word.
i thought it was hysterically funny but maybe that's just me On 5 Nov 2005, at 16:10, X Kyle M Thompson wrote:
Does Blacksmoke's Silent Night send shivers down your spine?
I get goosepimples every time.
"Harrowing" is the word.
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On 11/5/05, zero_23@mac.com <zero_23@mac.com> wrote:
On 5 Nov 2005, at 16:10, X Kyle M Thompson wrote:
Does Blacksmoke's Silent Night send shivers down your spine?
i thought it was hysterically funny but maybe that's just me
I think you are probably alone in laughing when listening to the WTC collapse. kt.
That is fucking SICK!!! You are amused at the death of people? RMStringer ========================================== Seek not every quality in one individual: *Confucius* -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tony Stuart Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:50 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Silent Night
I think you are probably alone in laughing when listening to the WTC collapse.
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Ooh, how "shocking" and "outrageous" of you. -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+shilo101=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+shilo101=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tony Stuart Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:50 AM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Silent Night
I think you are probably alone in laughing when listening to the WTC collapse.
no, i laughed too. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
X Kyle M Thompson wrote:
On 11/5/05, Tony Stuart <amethyst.deceiver@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you are probably alone in laughing when listening to the WTC collapse. no, i laughed too. I suggest you seek help.
At the time, I remember having been more afraid of "what comes after this" than what is actually going on, as I watched the whole thing happen live on television. Which, to my understanding, is pretty much what the mix - and the EP - is about too. -j
On 5 Nov 2005, at 20:59, X Kyle M Thompson wrote:
On 11/5/05, Tony Stuart <amethyst.deceiver@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you are probably alone in laughing when listening to the WTC collapse. no, i laughed too. I suggest you seek help.
but... you're not listening to the WTC collapse - you're mainly listening to some guy going hysterical while describing it did you guys totally miss the humour and irony in the We Used To Be Friends remix? if you're going to take that view, surely the whole of Blacksmoke, at least the early stuff - as so much of their stuff was 9-11 and Iraq war orientated do you find America No More equally horrific? and for that matter, are you not also horrified by Cauty's stamps? not just those relevant to 9-11 but the 5-11 ones, that would seem to be rejoicing in and celebrating the treasonous act that would have surely brought about the most horrific period of religious persecution had it, as the images on the stamps represent, succeded.
On 11/6/05, zero_23@mac.com <zero_23@mac.com> wrote:
On 5 Nov 2005, at 20:59, X Kyle M Thompson wrote:
On 11/5/05, Tony Stuart <amethyst.deceiver@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you are probably alone in laughing when listening to the WTC collapse. no, i laughed too. I suggest you seek help.
but... you're not listening to the WTC collapse - you're mainly listening to some guy going hysterical while describing it
His reaction is OTT, but her is reacting to an OTT event. His raction is nothing but natural *for him*, who knows how we would react to something similar?
do you find America No More equally horrific?
No, it just makes you think. It certainly isn't funny. I guess 9/11 is closer, temporaly and emotionaly.
and for that matter, are you not also horrified by Cauty's stamps? not just those relevant to 9-11 but the 5-11 ones, that would seem to be rejoicing in and celebrating the treasonous act that would have surely brought about the most horrific period of religious persecution had it, as the images on the stamps represent, succeded.
Well it didn't happen did it? The 5-11 stamps say "nothing is new, there will always be terrorists"
All very interesting: there was a documentary on the BBC last week about the gunpowder plot, which stated that if Guido and his mates had succeeded, it would have meant more Catholic persecution rather than less, as the Protestant masses (no pun intended) gathered to make their lives living hell. It also would have affected the succession of monarchy quite badly (but then, hey-ho ... ) 9-11 was an event that was, I think, so extraordinarily pervasive in its "domino effect". Unfortunate phrase I know, but just think: it's highly unlikely that those jet plane hi-jackers knew that crashing into the Towers at 80 floors or above would inevitably cause the metal superstructure to melt, because of super-heated aviation fuel, and eventually two of the world's biggest buildings would simply dissappear (I don't think anyone EVER suspected this could possibly happen). But it did - an inevitable consequence of that initial impact. In fact, it seems similar, like a Greek tragedy, to the Titanic disaster of 1912. The initial collision, un-thought-of structural problems (a metal superstructure in one; bad quality steel and ineffective watertight bulkheads in the other), followed by disbelief, people being trapped, ineffective escape routes (although there was no equivalent of "not enough lifeboats" in 9-11), moments of immense bravery, and finally a collosal loss of life that echoes around the world. And now, 93 years later, the Titanic is a stock joke reference used by all game show hosts and bad comedians ... I wonder if 9-11 will be the same in decades to come? I also suspect that in the years following 1912, there was a similar amount of sang-froid from people who found the pointless deaths of some of the early 20th century's rich, famous and powerful really rather funny. Not many of 9-11 victims were famous (although by global standards, rich and powerful may somtimes come into it) - but a similar sang-froid comes into play. Jokes appeared on the internet within a few hours. And works of art, other than the usual statues and memorials, started to filter down, just like 1912's endless memorial sheets of music and poems (see "Convergence of the Twain" by Thomas Hardy). There will always be terrorism and disasters (witness the Titanic's "sister disaster" the Lustitania, the torpedoing of an ocean liner by a German sub in 1915 which eventual lead the US into World War One). And similarily, the reaction is always the same too ... Blacksmoke's 5-11 stamps and early music is just a part of that huge never-ending process (as is people's "shameful joy" in death of the economically powerful). Sorry if this seems a bit long-winded, but I hope people find it interesting! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "X Kyle M Thompson" <kyle.thompson@gmail.com> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [KLF] Silent Night On 11/6/05, zero_23@mac.com <zero_23@mac.com> wrote:
On 5 Nov 2005, at 20:59, X Kyle M Thompson wrote:
On 11/5/05, Tony Stuart <amethyst.deceiver@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you are probably alone in laughing when listening to the WTC collapse. no, i laughed too. I suggest you seek help.
but... you're not listening to the WTC collapse - you're mainly listening to some guy going hysterical while describing it
His reaction is OTT, but her is reacting to an OTT event. His raction is nothing but natural *for him*, who knows how we would react to something similar?
do you find America No More equally horrific?
No, it just makes you think. It certainly isn't funny. I guess 9/11 is closer, temporaly and emotionaly.
and for that matter, are you not also horrified by Cauty's stamps? not just those relevant to 9-11 but the 5-11 ones, that would seem to be rejoicing in and celebrating the treasonous act that would have surely brought about the most horrific period of religious persecution had it, as the images on the stamps represent, succeded.
Well it didn't happen did it? The 5-11 stamps say "nothing is new, there will always be terrorists" _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
On 6 Nov 2005, at 09:06, John Milne wrote:
it's highly unlikely that those jet plane hi-jackers knew that crashing into the Towers at 80 floors or above would inevitably cause the metal superstructure to melt, because of super-heated aviation fuel, and eventually two of the world's biggest buildings would simply dissappear (I don't think anyone EVER suspected this could possibly happen).
apparently, when you design a skyscrapper, you have to take into account all sorts of unlikely things - weather conditions far worse than would ever occur, all sorts of things like that - and you also have to take into account something along the lines of a total catastrophy - and for years, the stock example for that has been what if a 747-size plane crashes into it - or at least, it had been for years by the time my father was studying engineering of course, i guess the WTC may have been designed and built before that kind of planning came in to practice - but i wonder if the brains behind the wtc didn't study civil engineering at some point, or knew someone who did
of course, i guess the WTC may have been designed and built before that kind of planning came in to practice - but i wonder if the brains behind the wtc didn't study civil engineering at some point, or knew someone who did
I've read that the WTC was built in the early 70's, when the largest commercial airplane was the 727.
9-11 was an event that was, I think, so extraordinarily pervasive in its "domino effect". Unfortunate phrase I know, but just think: it's highly unlikely that those jet plane hi-jackers knew that crashing into the Towers at 80 floors or above would inevitably cause the metal superstructure to melt, because of super-heated aviation fuel, and eventually two of the world's biggest buildings would simply dissappear (I don't think anyone EVER suspected this could possibly
Challenge the accepted reality. the official version of 9/11 sounds incredibly improable to me. Antone remember the spanish Skyscraper fire in February? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4271415.stm - and still it didn't collapse. http://www.911truth.org/ http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_videos.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html etc etc. No Government is above False Flag ops (recently released papers indicate that the US was seriously considering a self-inflicted strike to justify a Cuban Invasion). Call me a tinfoil hatted nutter if you want but I don't wear hats. "Many will nod their head, OK, that does it and go back to watching the NBA finals or whatever, but I find this theory just about as satisfying as the fantastic conspiracy theory that "19 young Arabs acting at the behest of Islamist extremists headquartered in distant Afghanistan" caused 9/11." - Morgan Reynolds.
Similar doubts have been cast over some of the other events I mentioned, too. There are at least two books which state that "The Titanic" sinking was an insurance scam by the White Star Line (and in actual fact, it was her older, damaged sister ship which was purposely foundered on the iceberg instead). And also, there is a (debated) body of evidence that the Lusitania was "sacrificed" to get the US into World War One (meaning that her passengers' safety was compromised by leaks from the British Navy to German high command). John Slartibartfast: "The chances of finding out what really is going on are so absurdly remote, I think the best thing to do is to say 'hang the sense of it' and just keep yourself occupied ... I'd far rather be happy that right any day." Arthur: "And are you?" Slartibartfast: "No. That's where it all falls down, of course." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Reed" <mr.markreed@virgin.net> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [KLF] Silent Night (OT as hell)
9-11 was an event that was, I think, so extraordinarily pervasive in its "domino effect". Unfortunate phrase I know, but just think: it's highly unlikely that those jet plane hi-jackers knew that crashing into the Towers at 80 floors or above would inevitably cause the metal superstructure to melt, because of super-heated aviation fuel, and eventually two of the world's biggest buildings would simply dissappear (I don't think anyone EVER suspected this could possibly
Challenge the accepted reality. the official version of 9/11 sounds incredibly improable to me. Antone remember the spanish Skyscraper fire in February? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4271415.stm - and still it didn't collapse.
http://www.911truth.org/ http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_videos.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html
etc etc. No Government is above False Flag ops (recently released papers indicate that the US was seriously considering a self-inflicted strike to justify a Cuban Invasion). Call me a tinfoil hatted nutter if you want but I don't wear hats.
"Many will nod their head, OK, that does it and go back to watching the NBA finals or whatever, but I find this theory just about as satisfying as the fantastic conspiracy theory that "19 young Arabs acting at the behest of Islamist extremists headquartered in distant Afghanistan" caused 9/11." - Morgan Reynolds.
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That is fucking SICK!!! You are amused at the death of people?
people all around the world celebrated the collapse of the twin towers. it was the spectacle to end all spectacles. it was easy for many people to disassociate the spectacle from the reality of individual death. there's nothing new in that. it still happens, daily.
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