People just don't seem to understand. The hardest part about being better than everyone else is that people tend to think you're pretentious. :)

-----Original Message----- From: Stuart Bruce [mailto:klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:20 PM To: KLF mailing list Subject: Re: Even further OT (was RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD)

To refer to somebody else as arrogant whilst quoting dictionary definitions is an interesting twist. It's a little like calling something "pretentious, darling"...

Firstly he didn't edit anything so quite what your rant is about I'm not sure.

Secondly editing out bits of messages that were not intended for public eyes is not censorship. If you wanted to send a copy of an e-mail to somebody and take out (say) your credit card details, or something private, then you would be editing it. Not censoring it. If the guy removed his friend's e-mail address from the message (I can't remember if he did or not?) then again, that's editing, not censorship.

*If* the original message had been edited in order to just post the relevant parts without anything irrelevant, then that is editing. It depends on why he removed the text (if he had bothered at all).

In case you hadn't guessed I'm a TV editor who has taken objection to your implications that a) TV jobs require creativity but no skill or experience or talent and b) that anything edited because it isn't appropriate to the finished piece is censorship.

When a TV piece is edited and you take out the presenter saying "oh fuck, I've messed up that line", is that censorship? No.

GET A GRIP!

Stuart.

On Wed 27 Mar, Chris Bennett wrote:

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well..in this case..removing content to "protect" someone else, no matter who it hurts... Main Entry: censor Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): censored; censoring /'sen(t)-s&-ri[ng], 'sen(t)s-ri[ng]/ Date: 1882 : to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable (which is what he was doing..to "protect" me from being offended by his arrogant friend..)

yes..I do know what they mean..unfortunately too many people incorrectly use the word edit to mean cutting out things that people don't want to hear, which is more the definition for censorship..

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