In a message dated 11/27/2003 11:17:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, andy@adlee.co.uk writes: I authored it with TMGenc DVD author. Download it from their site and use the programme to extract the video from the DVD (you'll have 30 days). It is 25 fps PAL I just checked! hmm. Thanks. I used DVD2AVI to extract (which claimed 20fps) then used TMGenc to create the new mpg. How do you extract the video with TMG? Didn't know you could do that. Will work on it. -paul