Re: [KLF] 3AM Eternal Welcome to The Moon Mix 1989
it's different. studio version maybe, kind of jam session. guys were getting ready for Helter Skelter performance? - A
Here's my hypothesis: At one point early in 1989 The KLF were planning on releasing a Pure Trance LP including versions of their Pure Trance 12"s and following on from the second disc of Shag Times. This was scrapped when What Time is Love initially sold poorly. After the surprise resurgence of What Time is Love, The KLF decided to release a Live at Trancentral LP, which was to include rave versions of Pure Trance tracks, early working versions of which were played "live" over the Summer of 1989. The Blue Danube Orbital mix was intended to be a track on the album per the label of KLF 005R. While Adam believes the version of Love Trance he so expertly and lovingly restored is a demo of what was released on the mega-rare white label, I believe the opposite is true, the version someone from the KLF organization eventual sold on 12" was the original abandoned version of Love Trance and the Adam Stalker version is a later rave mix intended for the Live at Trancentral LP as it bears striking sonic similarities the the Blue Danube 3 AM. Other possible inclusions were to be one of the Kylie Said Trance mixes, the version of Madrugda Eterna from the Kylie CD single, the rave version of What Time is Love from KLF LP04, and perhaps the Last Train b-side from KLF 008R. Well as time went on The KLF became increasingly more ambient and the Live
From Trancentral LP morphed into Chill Out.
Dan Hutchins On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Adam Stalker <stlkr@o2.pl> wrote:
it's different. studio version maybe, kind of jam session. guys were getting ready for Helter Skelter performance?
- A
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On 15.2.2013 15:50, Dan Hutchins wrote:
While Adam believes the version of Love Trance he so expertly and lovingly restored is a demo of what was released on the mega-rare white label, I believe the opposite is true, the version someone from the KLF organization eventual sold on 12" was the original abandoned version of Love Trance and the Adam Stalker version is a later rave mix intended for the Live at Trancentral LP
Just get things clear to myself, Adams restored version = Version on those "marble" vinyls sold on ebay couple of years ago? Original abandoned version = PVC version, Love Trance [Pure Truth 3] with Kraftwerks Das Model loop? If this is correct, I'm with this as "marble" version sound way more produced and "cleaner" than Pure Truth version. -- anttil.
The PVC version is the one Adam restored. The vinyl version is the one of questionable authenticity. After spending countless hours with the PVC version, Adam believes the vinyl version to be authentic and a later mix to the one PVC recovered and Adam restored, although I believe the PVC/Adam version to be the later mix based on it's similarity to the Blue Danube 3 AM Eternal. Dan On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 15.2.2013 15:50, Dan Hutchins wrote:
While Adam believes the version of Love Trance he so expertly and lovingly restored is a demo of what was released on the mega-rare white label, I believe the opposite is true, the version someone from the KLF organization eventual sold on 12" was the original abandoned version of Love Trance and the Adam Stalker version is a later rave mix intended for the Live at Trancentral LP
Just get things clear to myself,
Adams restored version = Version on those "marble" vinyls sold on ebay couple of years ago?
Original abandoned version = PVC version, Love Trance [Pure Truth 3] with Kraftwerks Das Model loop?
If this is correct, I'm with this as "marble" version sound way more produced and "cleaner" than Pure Truth version.
-- anttil.
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Can anyone give us some idea of costs to produce a limited run on vinyl Eg; studio time Stamping plates Production And every thing else that goes along with it, except distribution & finale point of sale. Reason being, For someone to make a fictitious KLF track & go to the effort of getting it to vinyl, there has to be a very large profit in it, This relates to the love trance pressings. Marc Sent from crapy 90,s Nokia On 15/02/2013, at 11:49 PM, Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 15.2.2013 15:50, Dan Hutchins wrote:
While Adam believes the version of Love Trance he so expertly and lovingly restored is a demo of what was released on the mega-rare white label, I believe the opposite is true, the version someone from the KLF organization eventual sold on 12" was the original abandoned version of Love Trance and the Adam Stalker version is a later rave mix intended for the Live at Trancentral LP
Just get things clear to myself,
Adams restored version = Version on those "marble" vinyls sold on ebay couple of years ago?
Original abandoned version = PVC version, Love Trance [Pure Truth 3] with Kraftwerks Das Model loop?
If this is correct, I'm with this as "marble" version sound way more produced and "cleaner" than Pure Truth version.
-- anttil.
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Maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree here or just barking! But with so many unreleased recordings kicking about surely there must have been some acetates pressed up. Towards the Trance LP, The White Room OST wasn't there a TP rumoured to exist? 008T? 3x Acetates of 004M are known to exist. DS1? It was common practise in the day to press up acetates brfore making a final decision to release a record. For example The White Room is Jams LP6 A2/B2. Were is A1/B1? Was it the Original white room ost or something else? Or a more simple explanation maybe it just wasn't fit for release. Either way the 1st press of Jams lp6 has never to my knowledge surfaced, and it could hold the answer to many questions. ________________________________ From: Dan Hutchins <danthutchins@gmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013, 13:50 Subject: Re: [KLF] 3AM Eternal Welcome to The Moon Mix 1989 Here's my hypothesis: At one point early in 1989 The KLF were planning on releasing a Pure Trance LP including versions of their Pure Trance 12"s and following on from the second disc of Shag Times. This was scrapped when What Time is Love initially sold poorly. After the surprise resurgence of What Time is Love, The KLF decided to release a Live at Trancentral LP, which was to include rave versions of Pure Trance tracks, early working versions of which were played "live" over the Summer of 1989. The Blue Danube Orbital mix was intended to be a track on the album per the label of KLF 005R. While Adam believes the version of Love Trance he so expertly and lovingly restored is a demo of what was released on the mega-rare white label, I believe the opposite is true, the version someone from the KLF organization eventual sold on 12" was the original abandoned version of Love Trance and the Adam Stalker version is a later rave mix intended for the Live at Trancentral LP as it bears striking sonic similarities the the Blue Danube 3 AM. Other possible inclusions were to be one of the Kylie Said Trance mixes, the version of Madrugda Eterna from the Kylie CD single, the rave version of What Time is Love from KLF LP04, and perhaps the Last Train b-side from KLF 008R. Well as time went on The KLF became increasingly more ambient and the Live From Trancentral LP morphed into Chill Out. Dan Hutchins On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Adam Stalker <stlkr@o2.pl> wrote:
it's different. studio version maybe, kind of jam session. guys were getting ready for Helter Skelter performance? - A
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