Hi all, I've just read some interesting articles about so called "bastard pop", I didn't know the name before but for sure everyone knows the result already. One of the quite known results in Switzerland and Germany is "Like a prayer" from MadHouse. It's a remix from Madonna based on a very nice drumloop which is well known as well for oldschool techno freaks like me :-) Interestingly they also mention the word "Bootleg" in the same category, so far a bootleg was "just" a copy of the original track without permission by the artist for me. IMHO this word has nothing to do with remixes or am I wrong? Later they mention the JAM's as well: --- Die Methode der Bootleg-Künstler ist nicht ohne Vorbilder: Schon Ende der 1980er spielte Tim Westwood Public-Enemy-Raps über John-Coltrane-Stücken, die auch in Miniauflagen gepresst wurden. Künstler wie Negativland, John Oswald oder die Justified Ancients of MuMu wandten die Techniken der Verfremdung durch Zusammenfügung bereits in den 1980er und 1990er Jahren an und werden von den erheblich jüngeren Bootleg-Künstlern deshalb als ältere Ausprägung ihrer Bewegung gesehen. --- *Rough* translation: --- The method of bootleg-artists are not without role model: Already at the end of the 1980ies Tim Westwood played Public-Enemy-Raps over John-Coltrane-Tracks, who even got pressed in small amounts. Artists like Negativeland, John Oswald or the Justified Ancients of MuMu used this technique <very rought translation cause I don't know the words in english:> to "change a track in cutting stuff together" already in the 1980ies and 1990ies. Because of this a lot of young bootleg artists see those people as older occurence of their movement. --- Damn translating given stuff is quite hard :-) The original (german) articles are here: Telepolis: Verbotene Musik (forbidden music): http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/musik/11846/1.html Article especially about "Like a prayer": http://www.laut.de/vorlaut/news/2002/04/04/02680/index.htm The site where a lot of this stuff seems to come from: http://boomselection.n3.net/ cu Adrian -- Adrian Gschwend @ OS/2 Netlabs ICQ: 22419590 ktk@netlabs.org ------- The OS/2 OpenSource Project: http://www.netlabs.org