Hi John I expect the phrase was first used many years ago when we realised just how bad the North of England was......I mean who else puts gravey on fish and chips and if you notice when the northerners speak they always miss words out............flat caps.ferrets .........come on the list is endless Best Wishes Mark Portsmouth in the South of England. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Milne To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: [KLF] Where does the expression "It's Grim Up North" come from? Simple question. Google and wiki turn up KLF references, but what about eariler? Where does it come from? When was the earliest use of the phrase? John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com