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RE: Subject: [KLF] of course the 1 million burningreallyANDwhatwas coming??
by Don Gagen 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

While their backcatalogue is very dear to us on this list, it doesn't get the kind of radioplay and sales that many no.1 acts do (especially true of the Timelords single btw.). The backcatalogue is still in shops worldwide, the only difference is that it appears as imports here in the UK. What they really did when they deleted everything was to simply hand over the day to day running of their backcatalogue in Britain to Arista." - Andy_R I see your point if you are talking about present day. They don't really have a huge fan base now. I'm referring to the 1992 when they were at the height of their career. I really wouldn't doubt that the money lost in first 5 years amounted to several million GBP, but I could be wrong. Is there a music industry resource that tracks the number of units sold and money made from albums and singles? We have one for the computer gaming industry so I assume there must be something out there for music. Don "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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RE: Re: Re: Subject: [KLF] of course the 1 million burning reallyANDwhatwas coming??
by Don Gagen 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

You first have to understand the huge amounts of money they lost by withdrawing all KLF Communications releases from sale in 1992. If you can comprehend that then you can see how easy it would be for them to burn it. Compared to future record sales, burning the million was nothing. Unfortunately that was too subtle for the average person to understand. It went right over their heads and was quickly forgotten. Most people were too stupid to realize the KLF threw away MULTIPLE millions by doing it. J&B realized if they wanted to make the average person understand enormity of throwing away millions they had to simplify it into a physical act. Just burn it. I have no doubt they did it. I just wish they had done a better job of documenting it. I have the book, but the pictures are so small and blurry. In this age of "reality TV" they could have broadcast it live to really drive it home. Don "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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RE: [KLF] The Burning and my 23 cents
by Don Gagen 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

They were fined for the burning, but I don't remember how much. Don "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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Re: [KLF] The Burning and my 23 cents
by Maarten Bouwes 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

I thought banknotes were the property of a national bank. That means burning etc would be illegal. The bank took legal actions, haven't they? Maarten >From: "John Smiles " <john.smiles(a)lycos.co.uk> >Reply-To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >CC: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com, AllboundforMu-MuLand. >Subject: Re: [KLF] The Burning and my 23 cents >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:16:36 GMT > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ Ontvang je Hotmail & Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/

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Re: [KLF] omnibus documentary
by PVC 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

the burning film project is still under discussion during the m25 spin (27-28 march) there will be a live broadcast with phone in conversations if you would like to call gimpo and ask about the film or indeed his recollection of the burning itself... or any other tales such as the trips to the lighthouse at the top of the world or puppet show up the congo i'm sure he will be most pleased i will post to the list the mobile number to call closer to the spin inhale & enjoy tim ----- Original Message ----- From: xen on To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:29 PM Subject: [KLF] omnibus documentary does anyone know where this omnibus documentary might be obtained? also, not to long ago there was some discussion about the possibility of talking to gimpo about allowing a dvd of the buring video to made available to list members. what ever happened to this possibility? btw- the book is one of the more useful art documents ive seen, if by useful one means successful in fostering discussion and thought... showing people the book and letting them rant ( true to form, almost all are disgusted and/or offended ) almost always leads to lively and far-ranging discussions. 'we are the kids from the base, were not the kids in america' -discomania- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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RE: Re: Re: Subject: [KLF] of course the 1 million burning reallyANDwhatwas coming??
by Don Gagen 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

You first have to understand the huge amounts of money they lost by withdrawing all KLF Communications releases from sale in 1992. If you can comprehend that then you can see how easy it would be for them to burn it. Compared to future record sales, burning the million was nothing. Unfortunately that was too subtle for the average person to understand. It went right over their heads and was quickly forgotten. Most people were too stupid to realize the KLF threw away MULTIPLE millions by doing it. J&B realized if they wanted to make the average person understand enormity of throwing away millions they had to simplify it into a physical act. Just burn it. I have no doubt they did it. I just wish they had done a better job of documenting it. I have the book, but the pictures are so small and blurry. In this age of "reality TV" they could have broadcast it live to really drive it home. Don "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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Re: Re: Subject: [KLF] of course the 1 million burning really ANDwhatwas coming??
by John Smiles 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

I did see the omnibus years ago when it was on tv, no scince then i havent, from memory it was a low grade film, was it black and white ? Still they burnt some mony and made a film, i still dont belive that was a million quid ! ------- Original message ------- From: TheMgnt(a)aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:47:01 EST Subject: Re: Subject: [KLF] of course the 1 million burning really ANDwhatwas coming?? > How can you tell from a lump of ash that it was a million quid ? > > Anyone could perform a trick like this, david blane would find it a lame > trick to do. So then you haven't seen any of the film showing the actual burning. I think you might start to feel differently if you saw it with your own eyes. Incidently, the KLF are frequently called "scammers" or "hoaxers" but, setting the 1 Million debate aside, have they ever actually done anything to fit those descriptions? I can't think of any. Their antics were all what I would consider performance art pieces, or at the very least, stunts. -paul Currently in rotation: Brian Wilson - Smile (live); PetShopBoys - Release (demos); McCartney - (various mp3) _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Lycos EMail has 10 MB of storage space. http://mail.lycos.co.uk

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Re: Subject: [KLF] of course the 1 million burning really ANDwhatwas coming??
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

> How can you tell from a lump of ash that it was a million quid ? > > Anyone could perform a trick like this, david blane would find it a lame > trick to do. So then you haven't seen any of the film showing the actual burning. I think you might start to feel differently if you saw it with your own eyes. Incidently, the KLF are frequently called "scammers" or "hoaxers" but, setting the 1 Million debate aside, have they ever actually done anything to fit those descriptions? I can't think of any. Their antics were all what I would consider performance art pieces, or at the very least, stunts. -paul Currently in rotation: Brian Wilson - Smile (live); PetShopBoys - Release (demos); McCartney - (various mp3)

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M25 Spin 2004
by KLF Book 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

>Remembering the spin I was on , it was impossible >to hear a conversation in >the van , let alone on the other end of a mobile >phone ;) Our lab-coated engineers are feverishly working on precisely this issue as I type! ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

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M25 spin 2004
by H 23 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

"during the m25 spin (27-28 march) there will be a live broadcast with phone in conversations if you would like to call gimpo and ask about the film or indeed his recollection of the burning itself... or any other tales such as the trips to the lighthouse at the top of the world or puppet show up the congo i'm sure he will be most pleased i will post to the list the mobile number to call closer to the spin" Remembering the spin I was on , it was impossible to hear a conversation in the van , let alone on the other end of a mobile phone ;) _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess

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