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KLF live gigs
by John Milne 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

Hi everyone, I thought I'd just pop up and post something about "live" gigs. I know theres a list of live gigs somewhere on-line (can't remember the link, though), but for the record heres mine: Live performance in Sweden in late 1987, outside Abba offices, when burning copies of their debut LP. According to the "Shag Times" sleeve notes, anyway. Does the "Live on Stage at the Benio" bit in "Burn the Bastards" refer to live JAMMs appearances? I wonder ... I think Bill and Jimmy started DJing with Alex Paterson in the first half of 1989, but I'm not sure. Certainly, their penchant for Apollo samples started around then. There may also have been evenings with Tony Thorpe around this time. Graham Lees live performance (semi-improvised) of Madrugada Eterna on steel guitar, which was recorded during a party, and then turned into the Chill Out track we know and love. I think this was recorded at Trancentral on 31st July 1989. Monday 31st July 1989 coincides with the release of Kylie Said to Jason (remember, folks, Graham's "Madrugada Eterna" didn't appear until the CD single in September) and seemed to be the first date the KLF ever played live (although Im sure I read somewhere their version of WTIL that night last 15 minutes, so the version of JAMSCD4 may be edited down). Presumably the night began and ended at Trancentral, with a visit to the Land of Oz in the middle. Sunday October 1st 1989 Chipping Norton Rave, as featured in the video where the KLF throw £1 Scottish notes on the crowd (or dollar bills, according to Andy. Not sure which story is true). The quote from "ID" magazine would suggest that "Helter Skelter" happened the same evening (Saturday 31/10/89 and 1/11/89) - so maybe they are the same rave. According to the video of Chipping Norton, they performed "What Time is Love" (and threw down bills from the tower with Cressida shouting "Free money!!!" amongst the crowd - no sign of Alex Paterson on the tower, though) and "3 AM Eternal". They also appeared to be playing "Pacific State" at one point - and started proceedings with "Jerusalem" (an old-fashioned vocal version). There were also a few Apollo samples and the "Blue Danube". During the autumn/winter of 89/90, Bill and Jimmy DJed a great deal with Alex Paterson and Youth (and possibly some of the Gee Street Records/"Eternity Project One" crowd?) at the Land of Oz and Trancentral. I think this may have been where the "Monster Attack Mix" of "WTIL" originated (which was distributed just amongst friends) as well as the early Orb/"Chill Out" sound. "A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating ... " etc was recorded the morning after a DJ party in late 1989 (as I imagine was "Chill Out" possibly?) Sadly, no recordings of their DJ sets seem to exist (except possibly the Made@3AM bootleg???). However, the appearance of Jesus Loves You (Boy George's band, doing "After the Love Has Gone") on JAMSCD5 seems to suggest some link - possibly a live PA with them around that time? This is just speculation. Anyway ... Mashall Lane Community Centre, Bootle, 15-17 March 1990 (Reverberation), appeared with Echo & the Bunnymen (in their Ian McCulloch-less days) to perform WTIL. Follow this link for an e-bay auction of the poster: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3802598580. This version of WTIL was recorded by Neil Dutton, I think, and in a very lo-fi way, on the "Arkive 1" bootleg. At the end, Will Sergeant says: Thanks to Mr. Jimmy Cauty (or something like that). This performance seemed to mark the end of the "ambient" phase of the KLF, and the beginning of the "stadium house" era, which was ushered in by: May 1990 Appearance in a club in Holland, where the sound equipment is passed around the audience. This can be seen briefly in the Cornfields version of the WTIL video, as well as in interview clips. This version was a full "PA" KLF - with rappers and dancers. I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly one of the magazines for those old "Volume" CDs) that this was a regular line-up at KLF parties during that summer (parties at Trancentral, anyway), and these "party" versions of their old "Pure Trance" records formed the basis of "stadium house". The "band" as appears on August's TOTP with "WTIL" is a similar line-up to the one that appeared at the club in May. May 1990 - Not sure if this was before or after the club in Holland, but what about their time on Jura filming "Waiting"? Some music must have been performed "live" then - even if it was only to sheep? Also - on a different subject - anyone else notice that the soundtrack to "Waiting" starts with Scott Piering saying "I need to get a hold of the KLF ... this is the 22nd of the 11th". Clearly, this phone message dates from November 1989 - I wonder what the KLF were doing that November, why they had hidden away, and why Scott needed to get a hold of them ...? Anyway ... June 1990 - Copehagen gig? Not sure how many live PAs they did that summer, before the release of "WTIL (Live at Trancentral)" (which was apparently based on their live PA version of the track). Autumn 1991 Appearance in Germany, to promote The White Room movie with movie executives present, and a lot of sheep. March 1992 The Brits 1992, appearance with Extreme Noise Terror. August 1992 After seeing the Red Army Choir at that years Edinburgh Festival, Bill organises a recording session with them (at the Village Hall in Newton Mearns, Dumfriesshire, his home town; this is also where The Man was recorded) with Jimmy present. Im sure there was some sort of performance that night. It must have been late 1992 or early 1993. This was when they recorded K Sera Sera. June 1993 Not a real appearance, but the Orb closed their set at Glastonbury that year with K Sera Sera, three months before its release in Israel. First appearance of the K? October 1993 The interstellar anthem appears again, played from one of the two orange K Foundation tanks, the night of the Turner Prize. September 1997 The 2K reunion at the Barbican. Originally intended for the 2nd September, but abandoned after the death of Princess Diana. Rescheduled for two weeks later. John

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Ftp server
by KLF 01 Apr '04

01 Apr '04

Hi Me again... may someone can remind me the access to the server ? As I said in my previous mail I can't get through. Maybe Am I doing something wrong ? Sorry for bothering you with that and thank you in advance for your help Olivier

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Re: [KLF] maybe OT - Paris II
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

> Unfortunately, the last time I went to Paris was back in 1976, when I was 5 > years old, otherwise I would have replied! Never been, myself. I don't think there's any French folk on the list these days. Well, if there are they're lurking. I can only recall seeing one and he left eons ago. -paul Currently in rotation: VA - The Abduction of the Art of Noise (commercial version); David Byrne - Grown Backwards; George Michael - Patience; Too Much Joy - various (mp3)

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Andy, Paris shops and Daft Punk
by Fritz von Runte 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Hi everyone, I'm a huge Andy Kaufman fan and a huge KLF fan. The connections never crossed my mind - but I agree, they have several points in common. Paris shops? I've been there twice and I never bought a record in France. Try this http://www.chez.com/frog/fr/techno2.htm About Daft Punk: To end it for good, I'm not into DP, thou I have a CD or two. But they are close to some people I know - some people you know too - and they were talking on and on about the KLF the other night. About the manual and especially about Chill Out, that the guys in DP would like to do something like that - with a diferent alias propably (my guess). That's all. all the best Pete Zarustica ps: hey bob, that's my new address man!

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Re: [KLF] Andy Kaufman Vs. the JAMs
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

> P.s.: The film is great. I was in the audience during the filming of the match with Jerry Lawler. I just need to mention that, attention seeker that I am. Carrey remained in character the entire day and would only answer to "Andy". I was also present during the supposed fight between Jim Carrey and Lawler after the filming. IMDb writes that the fight was fabricated - more realistically it was staged for the handful of us still at the arena. They started yelling at each other, Carrey spat at him and Lawler grabbed him by the hair and threw him to the ground. Didn't believe it for a second, given that we're talking Kaufman here. But there were ambulances and everything when I finally got outside. -paul Currently in rotation: VA - The Abduction of the Art of Noise (commercial version); David Byrne - Grown Backwards; George Michael - Patience; Too Much Joy - various (mp3)

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RE: [KLF] Andy Kaufman Vs. the JAMs
by KLF- gyerek 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

>What do others think? I agree. There are other similarities (especially between Drummond and Kaufman). Apart from that, Kaufman's image was childlike, though in real life he had a huge appetite for women. If I understood Drummonds "King Of Joy" and "Married Man" the correct way, the same can be said about Drummond. I read Kaufman's biography (Lost In The Funhouse) and it's quite revealing AND shocking. If you add that once 1987 was played while a wrestling match, the similarities are even more outstanding. (Kaufman's love to wrestle women, etc.) Let's see more: 2. KLF's trip to Jura (Rites Of Mu)=Andy Kaufman's night (in the Metropolitan? I don't remember) where he took the audience for milk and cookies. That night must have been cost Kaufman a fortune. Just like the Jura trips. 3. Many claim that Kaufman "faked" his death, just like his hero, Elvis.=Many people (the guys at Muzik, for example) claim that KLF faked the whole Abba/money burning thing. Add Drummond's Elvisism, especially on "I Believe In Rock'n'Roll" and "Bad Wisdom". 5. The use of masks and costumes. Kaufman had an evil alter ego called Tony Clifton. He had other personas too: The Foreign Man, etc. The KLF had a million side projects... 23. BOTH Kaufman and The KLF have an unfinished/unreleased film!!!!!!! I can cite more, maybe, after browsing through "Lost In The Funhouse" a Gyerek P.s.: The film is great. Courtney (or Kurt-ney) is STILL a pretentious bitch, cashing in her husband's death. But You all know that already. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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The Dandy Warhols
by RMStringer 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

I was able to get all of their videos on high quality QuickTime files. I also have a media player that will play the .mov files but it is not QuickTime. It is called Media Player Classic and also have a codec that will allow you to play all video files on your comp. All free and from the net. I also can play Real Media files using this player. Here is the URL for the media player: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303 <http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=8435 8> &package_id=84358 The other file is called: ffdshow-20030523 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=53761 <http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=53761&release_id=1612 24> &release_id=161224 and then finally the last file: klcodec220f http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?file=klcodec220f.exe <http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?file=klcodec220f.exe&size=6594452> &size=6594452 RMStringer $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ In the shadow An angel cries Hearts and minds Torn by lies Tormented conscience Buried by weight Innocence confused By hate - "Lifeline"

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RE: [KLF] maybe OT - Paris II
by David Lindgren 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

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RE: [KLF] Andy Kaufman Vs. the JAMs
by Maarten Bouwes 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

Saw the movie also but switched after 45 minutes... Suppose the connection was made after 45 minutes? ;) Maarten >From: "John Milne" <john(a)highlandland.fsnet.co.uk> >Reply-To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: [KLF] Andy Kaufman Vs. the JAMs >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:22:45 +0100 > >Hi, everyone, > >I watched the Milos Forman biopic "Man on the Moon" last night, about US >comic (?) Andy Kaufman and - bizarre as it might seem - couldn't help >see a few parallels with the spirit of Bill and Jimmy. > >I don't know much about Kaufman (born in the wrong decade and continent, >I'm afraid) but he does seem a very interesting and fearless artist (and >even people who can't stand the KLF, would probably grant them that >too). > >Here are a few thoughts: Kaufman was (or appeared to be) a prankster, >even though he said he "never did anything to be funny" (in the same way >that "they have no master plan" I suppose). His pranks were huge, >expansive, irritating, designed to cause offence, and above all else - >secretive. He delighted in pseudonyms and different characters he would >never break from - and he was constantly referred to as a "performance >artists". > >His greatest scams of all confused and alienated fans, and it seemed for >all the world that first and foremost he was entertaining himself. Even >when he was diagnosed with cancer, so great had the lies around him been >spun, that people suspect it was still "a gag". > >Even today, his enigma continues in a cult. > >Can't help seeing similarities. Like the K Foundation, he seems to be >prepared to not "piss about" and "fucking go the whole fucking way, and >then not come back again". > >What do others think? > >John > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ Ontvang je Hotmail & Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/

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orb stuff on eBay
by Smiley 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

evening folks. apologies for the not-particularly on topic (and off-topic for the klf list) posting, but i think this may be of interest to many of you... ...i have a few bills to pay, so i've stuck a couple of orb bits and pieces up on eBay: MINT "BOB 4.4" VINYL: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4004792623&ssPageName=A DME:B:LC:UK:1 THE ORB XL SIZE "LOGO" T-SHIRT (DARK BLUE/SILVER): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3806991401&ssPageName=A DME:B:LC:UK:1 THE ORB "TOXYGENE" PROMO T-SHIRT (XL SIZE): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3806992618&ssPageName=A DME:B:LC:UK:1 THE ORB "U.F.OFF" RARE TOUR T-SHIRT (XL SIZE): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3806996025&ssPageName=A DME:B:LC:UK:1 ...they all start at Â£4.99 UKP, and there's no reserve on any of them! so, if anyone fancies a bargain, and wants to help me fix the hole in my ceiling that i made at the weekend (long story) - please do. ;-) cheers, --- Smiley

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