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Re: [KLF] Art statement?
by jon doe 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

i think they read the shag times cover, found a copy and could not believe it and just assumed it would sell for that much, especially after all this time. When i was at school around 93', i found a red one (not knowing what colour it was meant to be) for £12. Rang a friend who couln't believe it either, thinking it must be worth £1000. ======================================== Message date : Dec 03 2004, 10:23 AM >From : "John Milne" To : klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Copy to : Subject : [KLF] Art statement? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58663&item=4056404… An interesting one. Does anyone think this might be one of the 5 left that B&J tried to sell in 1988? John Whatever you Wanadoo This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here [ (no filename) (0.2 Kb) ] www.clsm.net -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

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edelweiss
by jai 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

mate of mine got hold of a collection of tracks titles Top 1000 Pop Hits of the 80s so i'm wandering through them at the moment, i'm hoping that out of 1000 tracks i might be able to find some tracks i like, but i'm up to E so far and i've really not found anything much yet. anyway, point is - it's got Bring Me Edelweiss by Edelweiss in there... which i know was mentioned on this list several years ago cos it was apparently written following (at least some of) the rules from The Manual. but i was under the impression it was from the mid 90s, certainly not the 80s. wouldn't surprise me - there's a load of tracks in this collection that i'm sure were early 90s not late 80s. -- --------------------------------------------------- -- -- illitrate Publicashions --- - jai(a)illitrate.co.uk - http://www.illitrate.co.uk/ - --- ------------------------------------------------- --- "if everything is all a dream; wake me" --Cloud Strife

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RE: [KLF] edelweiss
by Don Gagen 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

"anyway, point is - it's got Bring Me Edelweiss by Edelweiss in there... which i know was mentioned on this list several years ago cos it was apparently written following (at least some of) the rules from The Manual. but i was under the impression it was from the mid 90s, certainly not the 80s. " I'm fairly certain it came out in 88 or 89. Maybe someone has a copy handy, otherwise I can check when I get home. "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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RE: [KLF] STP Twentythree=KLF?
by Don Gagen 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

This is from the discography, but I'm not sure how much of it is correct. [CAST NOTES: Eternity = Youth Orb = Alex Paterson/Jimmy Cauty Bass = Kris "Thrash" Weston Discotec 200 = Disco 2000 Rockman = Jimmy Cauty STP Twentythree = Youth/Paterson?] "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Danny T. Hutchins Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:12 PM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] STP Twentythree=KLF? Does anyone on the list know anything about STP Twentythree from the Eternity: Project One LP and a hand full of 12" singles from 1989/1990 that were not issued on KLF communications. Many claim that this was an alias for the KLF, and certainly Jimmy Cauty was involved with the Eternity: Project One, but I have my doubts? Dan Hutchins _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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RE: [KLF] edelweiss
by Don Gagen 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

The Manual is an instructional book written by the KLF about creating a DIY #1 hit single. "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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Re: Re: [KLF] Orb! mailing list[OT] kwis
by jon doe 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Ok, managed to engage brain. Kwis is Kris Weston, aka Thrash, formerly of the ORB, who has the word 'Turgid' on his webpage http://www.justablip.co.uk/audio.html (just thought it would be fun to link that there, i like fun, me). Although still being angry now, Kris has been upset by having input into stuff and not being credited, something that has happaned to me a few times. But still kris, calm down, no need to come on here and knocking stuff we are interested in! Anyhow, here is a picture in discogs.com.. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Kris+Weston ======================================== Message date : Dec 08 2004, 07:40 PM >From : "Jon Doe" To : "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." Copy to : Subject : Re: [KLF] Orb! mailing list[OT] kwis And there's more! (oh yes, i did get the blacksmoke mail) "oh god.. yes hmm im sure someone else would have cleaned it up without me being there assuming they had even some mild form of musical ear... the LFC demo was in 3/4 and they didnt even know they had sampled up steve reich and some nilson or something break and steve was in 3/4 and the break was in 4/4 and they keyboard riff they laid down was in the wrong key the steve riff was shifting chords and the key riff was in the same key i'd say that needed cleaning up! ask greg if you dont believe me hes next door although i doubt he would come out for such mindless tedium... he always says i was the producer and i shoulda got a credit i couldnt give a fuck i hate it anyway __ kwis )) (( c[_] scuse the epenthesis ***************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel(a)klf.de To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Blacksmoke mailing list Yep. But the server doesn't respond... Did you have more luck there? Cheers, Dan --- a.k.a. Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Gagen To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:51 PM Subject: [KLF] Blacksmoke mailing list Did anyone else get an invite? "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com [ (no filename) (0.2 Kb) ] www.clsm.net -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

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WAU! Mr Modo or KLF Communications
by Don Gagen 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Maybe Kris can help me out with this. If I remember correctly the Orb got ripped off by the guy who ran WAU! Mr. Modo. What about Big Life, did they screw you out of payments as well? I read once that there was a time when the Orb was going to be on the KLF Communications label, but it didn't work out. I think it had something to do with a falling out between Jimmy and Alex. I would imagine that if the Orb had been on KLF Communications they would have made much more cash. I just don't get the feeling that B & J would be out to rip anyone off. On the other hand they might have burned all the paychecks. Don "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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Re: [KLF] burning cash
by say.map＠ihug.co.nz 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

OK say if Mr Weston had 2 million would that solve the problems with the analogy? > somehow i think you'd be just as selfish as everyone else > on the planet and you'd spend it on yourself. new house, > car, clear any debts or mortgage or whatever, etc etc etc > and while it makes you happy - it doesn't actually do any > real good for those in the world that actually need it - > you might as well have burnt it all for all the good > it'll do them well argued Jai, although there is the point that when money is spent by pop stars on stupid wasteful extravagent things or if they trash cars, hotel rooms or equipment, the money is still going back into society, whereas the KLFs fire didn't share the wealth around - the money was just gone. cheers -- This is the webmail account of Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (3) 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map(a)ihug.co.nz Photography, Graphic and Web design, Web development and hosting: http://www.pixelandgrain.co.nz/ Stuey's personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/

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RE: [KLF] burning cash
by Don Gagen 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

My short answer is yes. They filmed it, partially burned notes were found on the beach, bank statements show the withdrawal, and they paid the fine for destroying the money It would have been cool if they kept touring with the ashes throughout the UK. They basically held a few town-hall type meetings to see what people thought about the burning. I'm not sure how many they did but in the one I listened to the people got really disgusted with them. Mostly they couldn't understand why B&J didn't donate it to charity rather than waste it. I'm not sure what reaction they were expecting but it was pretty interesting listening to people getting so angry that they could barely speak. If you think about it, they actually boosted the value of the UKP by taking all that money out of circulation. Why should you pay a fine for doing that? "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of K. Weston Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:06 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] burning cash i would just like to ask one more question which is my reason for coming here... did jimmy and bill really burn a million pounds? and sorry if this has been gone over before... maybe jimmy or bill would like to answer personally so we can slag them off... __ kwis )) (( c[_] scuse the epenthesis ***************************** On 8 Dec 2004, at 19:51, jon doe wrote: _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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Re: [KLF] burning cash
by TheRitesOfMu＠aol.com 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

In a message dated 09/12/2004 02:37:50 GMT Standard Time, listreader(a)gmail.com writes: > hehehe derek that had me larfin nice .... > its only one shite band > and after all you are a good bloke i think... > > have a good christmas guys... > __ > > kwis > i've worked it out... this guy is pissed at all other bands that have not included his name to their work, as his work was obviously SHITE... please leave this quite CHILLed OUT area of THE LOST CONTIENT before THE TIMELORDS come after you, take you back in THE TARDIS and have words with The Orb about letting you ever step foot in the studio.... Wizard

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