September 2010 - GSL-Marina - mailman.xmission.com

Some good news on precip
by Dave Shearer 15 Sep '10

15 Sep '10

GSL Slip Renters and Marina Users. Over the last several years I have been studying the weather charts for Great Salt Lake religiously. And it has rarely been good news. The only exception was the 2008-2009 water year that raised the lake one net foot. But things appear to be changing. NOAA is predicting a wetter than normal winter for the Great Salt Lake Drainage area; especially the critical Bear River Drainage area. That's the forecast. Now let's look at what has happened this water year that is about to end; Precipitation percent of normal October 78% November 15% December 113% The only good month all winter January 28% February 38% And then things change March 133% April 124% May 137% June 128% July 19% The only bad month all spring and summer August 233% See the trend? We just went through ten years of a very quiet sun spot pattern. In essence, the sun went quiet. But right at the beginning of April the Sun became active again. In fact it has become very active with sun spots and solar flares. A study published last year correlates wetter than normal winters for the Intermountain West with an active Sun spot pattern. And the Sun seems to be on about a ten year cycle. Could this be the beginning of a wet cycle for the lake? I hope so. And for the first time in many years I just have a good feeling about the approaching winter. It's time for some good news and a changing trend. More about this in a couple days on the "News" tab of www.gslmarina.com Dave Shearer Harbormaster Great Salt Lake State Marina 801-209-9142

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Re: [GSL-Marina] marina issues
by Simpson, Rock 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

It's my humble opinion that if the lake continues to go down at the rate it has for the last several years, dredging would be an expensive stop gap measure. Should the level drop another 2' the deep water channel will no longer be navigable. I feel like the real issues here are determining acceptable levels for the lake, and work with business and government to try and maintain an acceptable lake level. I believe more emphasis should be placed on the water that is allowed to flow into the lake as well as what's allowed to be evaporated off. Communities along the Wasatch front as well as the ski industry should be made aware of the effect the diminishing lake will have on future drought along the Wasatch front. Anyhow I love our lake, marina and parks staff, and I truly believe they do what is in their power to maintain our navigable waters. If we are truly concerned we should be more involved, as well as informed as to what is going on with the decisions being made about our jewel in the desert. If you want to make some noise then I'd suggest you lobby the Great Salt Lake Advisory Council http://www.gslcouncil.utah.gov/index.htm . It's easy to point fingers and say why don't you do something, it's much more difficult to honestly say with conviction what can I do? Rock Simpson Sr. Traffic Technician II C.E.D. Trasportation Division 349 So. 200 E. Ste. #450 S.L.C. Ut. 84111 Phone: 801-535-6630 Fax: 801-535-6019 E-mail: rock.simpson(a)slcgov.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CB5313.4FE123F0] From: gsl-marina-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:gsl-marina-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Conroy Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:22 PM To: 'Michael Downie'; 'David Phillips' Cc: 'Harbormaster' Subject: Re: [GSL-Marina] marina issues Sounds like this group ought to be allied-with and mutually-supporting http://www.fogsl.org/ From: gsl-marina-bounces+thomas.conroy=usa.net(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:gsl-marina-bounces+thomas.conroy=usa.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Michael Downie Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 6:26 PM To: David Phillips Cc: Harbormaster Subject: Re: [GSL-Marina] marina issues Could the material removed be placed next to the existing Marina, perhaps extending the parking lot or creating picnic areas on the northeastern side, behind the wash station? As too mooring out deeper, aren't those mooring anchors stacked up next to Saltair? Mike Downie On SunSep 12, 2010, at 5:51 PM, David Phillips wrote: I just wanted to add my two cents to the debate of wether or not the Marina staff was actively working to come up with a solution to the marina dredging question. The answer is yes!! Since I have done work in the marina for the past three years, and Dave and I spend a good part of every spring on the phone trying to come up with a workable, cost effective solution to the water level question, I can attest to Bob and his concern. The work we have done through dredging or bringing the 'Lucin' down is simply a temporary measure. It is not cheap to do what we have done so far, but it has been the best we were able to do with the time and funds allowed. I wish we could do more, but it hasn't been possible so far. As to the question of cost to dredge the entire marina to an acceptable depth, 5 mill is not that far off. See, the digging is easy. Getting rid of what you dig is horribly expensive. The sheer volume of material you would need to remove from the marina is staggering. You would either need to haul it away by truck which is an environmental problem with transportation, or take it far enough out into the lake it can't come back. To accomplish this, you would need to go at least as far north as Eardly spit runs, at the minimum. Most likely, a couple miles farther. That will cast a LOT of money to get it that far. If you don't take it that far out, it will be back in a year or so. I am not saying all of this to drum up work for our company either. The type of work we are talking about would need to be done by totally different types of equipment than what we posses or would desire to have. Yes, we could support an operation like that, but not do it ourselves. The statement that the mineral companies should bear some of the cost, I think, is a good one. I believe that a well thought out, workable proposal, directed to these companies, could bear fruit. If it was proposed as a 'public service', to the Lake community of users, with just the right touch of publicity added, it could work. Although most people in the marina community do not know me, I still feel part of your group. I watch you from afar and love this lake as you do. I have lived on it's shore for 20 years now, and it is a part of me. When you look out on the lake, I see it in your mirror image. I firmly believe we are stewards of the world we live in. It is there to be used, but enjoyed and cared for. If we care enough and work together without pointing a finger, it can work, but we must all work together. David Phillips Trestlewood On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dale Clark <sportscar59(a)msn.com<mailto:sportscar59@msn.com>> wrote: I also agree with the comments made about Dave and the other marina staff. Comments: What about the fact that the state keeps giving out more rights to companies to mine minerals from the lake. These companies yield a lot more power with the state congress than us that enjoy the lake for its beauty and sailing. There is a good chance that the rumor that these companies control, to the best of their ability, the amount of water that is allowed to enter the lake or the level of the lake. We may need the lake to rise like back in the 80's before we can see the level rise very much. This just may never happen again. A couple of ideas: I'm sure others have thought of this, but instead of dredging the marina, what about moving at least part of it, to deeper water; even if we need to fairy back and forth. Maybe we should ask the mineral companies to help dredge or move some of the slips. They have the equipment and want to keep the lake at lower levels. I believe we can solve this problem for a lot less than $5 mil or maybe I'm all wet or salty. Dale From: gsl-marina-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com<mailto:gsl-marina-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> [mailto:gsl-marina-bounces@mailman.xmission.com<mailto:gsl-marina-bounces@mailman.xmission.com>] On Behalf Of iskander(a)comcast.net<mailto:iskander@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:58 AM To: Harbormaster Subject: [GSL-Marina] marina issues Ditto to the two comments already made. Things have improved imeasurably with the marina team we have now. I also question - $5mil to dredge? Errol _______________________________________________ GSL-Marina mailing list GSL-Marina(a)mailman.xmission.com<mailto:GSL-Marina@mailman.xmission.com> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gsl-marina -- David Phillips 801-362-8112 _______________________________________________ GSL-Marina mailing list GSL-Marina(a)mailman.xmission.com<mailto:GSL-Marina@mailman.xmission.com> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gsl-marina

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marina issues
by iskander＠comcast.net 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

Ditto to the two comments already made. Things have improved imeasurably with the marina team we have now. I also question - $5mil to dredge? Errol

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Party at Marina
by Dave Shearer 12 Sep '10

12 Sep '10

GSL Slip Renters and Marina Users. Rumor is that the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club is hosting a party at the marina next Saturday. Please see attached. Dave Dave Shearer Harbormaster Great Salt Lake State Marina 801-209-9142

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Marina Issues
by Dave Shearer 12 Sep '10

12 Sep '10

GSL Slip Renters; A couple rumors have come to our attention that I feel must be corrected. Rumor one (Myth): It is rumored that the reason we cannot afford to dredge the mouth of the marina is that we purchased a new power boat called Rescue One and can now not afford to dredge. Truth: Rescue One was NOT purchased with parks funds. It was purchased with boating and COAST GUARD funds that have nothing to do parks funds. The old Rescue One finally died. We, at the marina, wanted to have the old boat fitted with new engines. We were firmly told NO. So an RFP was sent out to purchase a new boat. The money for that boat was funded from the above mentioned funds two years ago. The cost of operating Rescue One does not come out of the marina budget but rather the above mentioned funds. Rumor Two (Myth): We cannot afford to dredge but we can afford to purchase a brand new truck. (some of you may have noticed that we now have a one ton truck so that we can pull Rescue One). Truth: There have been several Search and Rescues at Utah Lake this summer where we were requested to pull our boat down there. The ¾ ton truck we have been using is old had some trouble meeting this goal. The Main Office of Parks strongly requested that we get a one ton that would reliably meet this purpose for public safety reasons. We have leased the one ton from FLEET. AND we turned in one of our ¾ tons to compensate. AND, because the one ton is on a longer term lease, the one ton is costing us half what the truck we turned in was costing. So we are saving budget money. Rumor three (Myth): We just need to dredge the mouth and we will be ok. Truth: The marina mouth is about ½ a foot shallower than the rest of the marina. The mouth is at about 4.6 while the main channel of the marina is now about 5 feet in many sections. B dock has been lost to us. A large section of E dock has also been lost. And even the boats on the north side of C dock are now sitting in silt. My boat on K dock along with others are also sitting in silt. The problem is that the whole marina is silted in and in some degree of trouble. The estimated cost of dredging the marina is five million dollars. Parks just doesnt have that money. It will take money from the feds or from the legislature to solve this problem. Or a very good winter. It is unfortunate that these rumors that have no basis in fact get started and strain the relationship we have with parks staff and marina patrons. Rest assured that Bob and I are doing what we can to get the marina dredged. We have been doing a LOT of thinking out the box and are willing to listen any and all ideas. On a good note. NOAA has come out with the long term forecast for the Great Salt Lake Area and are predicting a wetter than normal winter. Let us all pray that this is accurate. Dave Shearer Harbormaster Great Salt Lake State Marina

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Crane Day November
by Dave Shearer 01 Sep '10

01 Sep '10

OK, to clear up some questions for all: The traditional Fall Crane Day is still on for Friday, November 5th at 8:30am. For those wanting to pull their boat for the winter, that may be the preferred crane day. Please contact me for information on that date. dshearer(a)gslmarina.com I will hire whatever size crane is necessary for that day. A reminder and reservation request email will be sent out early October. For those that want to pull out earlier, JR Reynolds has arranged a crane for 8:30am on September 22nd. He has a 90 ton crane arranged so they can handle a boat up to 7000 pounds. Please refer to the previously sent email on how to contact JR. Thanks Dave Shearer Harbormaster Great Salt Lake State Marina 801-209-9142

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Crane Day
by Dave Shearer 01 Sep '10

01 Sep '10

Crane Day September 22 first thing in the morning. Contact: JR Reynolds Great Salt Lake Experience. LLC 801.898.0270 1-866- SAILOR1 (1-866-724-5671) For more information if you are interested Dave Shearer Harbormaster Great Salt Lake State Marina

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