Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously. I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion. Jerry Kalayjian
Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously. I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion. Jerry Kalayjian _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans
So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant. Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously. I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion. Jerry Kalayjian _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans
future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too. only hoping for more juice and less disapointment. as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away... Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged... wonder if if was their editors? -----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant. Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously. I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion. Jerry Kalayjian _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans
Glen doesn’t seem to be getting better as he’s aged. But I don’t think it is directly his age, but the fact that his writing process had changed since he retired. He used to spend his days on the assembly line working over the story in his head and then typing it when he got home. I remember him as part of a panel at WorldCon in 1996 pontificating about how writing had gone down hill with the advent of the computer. He remarked something to the effect that since typing drafts was hard, that it forced writers to really think about what they were writing. And that computers made it too easy to just spew out lots of words and that size and brevity didn’t matter. I think this shows in his early writing vs his writing over the past 10 years or so. The books from the past couple decades have been a lot thicker and not as tight, or anywhere as good. Cheers, -- Sebastian shpshftr@xmission.com On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:02 AM, saulamca@aol.com wrote:
future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too.
only hoping for more juice and less disapointment.
as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away...
Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged...
wonder if if was their editors?
-----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief
So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant.
Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful.
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously.
I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion.
Jerry Kalayjian
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wonder if he's changed editors? -----Original Message----- From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 3:06 pm Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief Glen doesn’t seem to be getting better as he’s aged. But I don’t think it is directly his age, but the fact that his writing process had changed since he retired. He used to spend his days on the assembly line working over the story in his head and then typing it when he got home. I remember him as part of a panel at WorldCon in 1996 pontificating about how writing had gone down hill with the advent of the computer. He remarked something to the effect that since typing drafts was hard, that it forced writers to really think about what they were writing. And that computers made it too easy to just spew out lots of words and that size and brevity didn’t matter. I think this shows in his early writing vs his writing over the past 10 years or so. The books from the past couple decades have been a lot thicker and not as tight, or anywhere as good. Cheers, -- Sebastian shpshftr@xmission.com On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:02 AM, saulamca@aol.com wrote: future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too. only hoping for more juice and less disapointment. as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away... Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged... wonder if if was their editors? -----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant. Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously. I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion. Jerry Kalayjian _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans
I too think Garrett has gone down hill, but thought the first three Instrumentality books were quite good and was eager for the 4th. I thought I saw on Amazon that it was 4th of 4...maybe not, can't find it now...either way, even if there is more to come, this was super sloppy. Rereading Dragon Never Sleeps to reaffirm my affections. On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:08 PM, Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com> wrote: Glen doesn’t seem to be getting better as he’s aged. But I don’t think it is directly his age, but the fact that his writing process had changed since he retired. He used to spend his days on the assembly line working over the story in his head and then typing it when he got home. I remember him as part of a panel at WorldCon in 1996 pontificating about how writing had gone down hill with the advent of the computer. He remarked something to the effect that since typing drafts was hard, that it forced writers to really think about what they were writing. And that computers made it too easy to just spew out lots of words and that size and brevity didn’t matter. I think this shows in his early writing vs his writing over the past 10 years or so. The books from the past couple decades have been a lot thicker and not as tight, or anywhere as good. Cheers, -- Sebastian shpshftr@xmission.com On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:02 AM, saulamca@aol.com wrote: future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too.
only hoping for more juice and less disapointment.
as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away...
Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged...
wonder if if was their editors?
-----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief
So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant. Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful.
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously.
I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion.
Jerry Kalayjian
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am presently 'reaffirming my affections' with the Black Company (on ebooks) and the first 2 1/2 of the Instrumentality...sigh. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 5:52 pm Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief I too think Garrett has gone down hill, but thought the first three Instrumentality books were quite good and was eager for the 4th. I thought I saw on Amazon that it was 4th of 4...maybe not, can't find it now...either way, even if there is more to come, this was super sloppy. Rereading Dragon Never Sleeps to reaffirm my affections. On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:08 PM, Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com> wrote: Glen doesn’t seem to be getting better as he’s aged. But I don’t think it is directly his age, but the fact that his writing process had changed since he retired. He used to spend his days on the assembly line working over the story in his head and then typing it when he got home. I remember him as part of a panel at WorldCon in 1996 pontificating about how writing had gone down hill with the advent of the computer. He remarked something to the effect that since typing drafts was hard, that it forced writers to really think about what they were writing. And that computers made it too easy to just spew out lots of words and that size and brevity didn’t matter. I think this shows in his early writing vs his writing over the past 10 years or so. The books from the past couple decades have been a lot thicker and not as tight, or anywhere as good. Cheers, -- Sebastian shpshftr@xmission.com On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:02 AM, saulamca@aol.com wrote: future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too. only hoping for more juice and less disapointment. as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away... Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged... wonder if if was their editors? -----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant. Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously. I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion. Jerry Kalayjian _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans
Dragon is his best work. Even though it is a big book, the writing is really tight. Sent from my iPhone 5S(teve)
On Mar 18, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> wrote:
I too think Garrett has gone down hill, but thought the first three Instrumentality books were quite good and was eager for the 4th. I thought I saw on Amazon that it was 4th of 4...maybe not, can't find it now...either way, even if there is more to come, this was super sloppy.
Rereading Dragon Never Sleeps to reaffirm my affections.
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:08 PM, Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com> wrote:
Glen doesn’t seem to be getting better as he’s aged.
But I don’t think it is directly his age, but the fact that his writing process had changed since he retired. He used to spend his days on the assembly line working over the story in his head and then typing it when he got home.
I remember him as part of a panel at WorldCon in 1996 pontificating about how writing had gone down hill with the advent of the computer. He remarked something to the effect that since typing drafts was hard, that it forced writers to really think about what they were writing. And that computers made it too easy to just spew out lots of words and that size and brevity didn’t matter.
I think this shows in his early writing vs his writing over the past 10 years or so. The books from the past couple decades have been a lot thicker and not as tight, or anywhere as good.
Cheers,
-- Sebastian shpshftr@xmission.com
On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:02 AM, saulamca@aol.com wrote:
future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too.
only hoping for more juice and less disapointment.
as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away...
Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged...
wonder if if was their editors?
-----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief
So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant.
Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful.
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously.
I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion.
Jerry Kalayjian
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Agreed - Dragon is his best. I was always disappointed there weren't more Kez Maefele stories. On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:19 PM, Xmission <shpshftr@xmission.com> wrote: Dragon is his best work. Even though it is a big book, the writing is really tight. Sent from my iPhone 5S(teve) On Mar 18, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> wrote: I too think Garrett has gone down hill, but thought the first three Instrumentality books were quite good and was eager for the 4th. I thought I saw on Amazon that it was 4th of 4...maybe not, can't find it now...either way, even if there is more to come, this was super sloppy.
Rereading Dragon Never Sleeps to reaffirm my affections.
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:08 PM, Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com> wrote:
Glen doesn’t seem to be getting better as he’s aged.
But I don’t think it is directly his age, but the fact that his writing process had changed since he retired. He used to spend his days on the assembly line working over the story in his head and then typing it when he got home.
I remember him as part of a panel at WorldCon in 1996 pontificating about how writing had gone down hill with the advent of the computer. He remarked something to the effect that since typing drafts was hard, that it forced writers to really think about what they were writing. And that computers made it too easy to just spew out lots of words and that size and brevity didn’t matter.
I think this shows in his early writing vs his writing over the past 10 years or so. The books from the past couple decades have been a lot thicker and not as tight, or anywhere as good.
Cheers,
-- Sebastian shpshftr@xmission.com
On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:02 AM, saulamca@aol.com wrote:
future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too.
only hoping for more juice and less disapointment.
as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away...
Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged...
wonder if if was their editors?
-----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief
So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant. Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful.
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously.
I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion.
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Dragon is damned good. But my fave is still "Soldiers Live". I never made it through the 3rd Instrumentality book; every time I start, I get bogged down for some reason. In general, I do not at all like the style of writing in this series: Far too often it's telegraphic, with sentence fragments for no discernible reason in the third-person-omniscient mode (i.e., not part of someone's words or thoughts). Far too much telling without showing. A plethora of characters that I have trouble keeping track of, and important geographical relationships that are hidden from us because of no maps. (It's Europe and the Middle East with essentially no Mediterranean Sea--enormous consequences to who's next to whom, separated by mountains or not separated, and that's all dreadfully important to who's threatening whom.) I like the passages with Piper Hecht/Else Tage's point of view, so I guess I'll continue reading for the sake of those chapters. But it's a slog, nothing at all like the drive I've always felt with his other books--*any* of his other books. Steve On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>wrote:
Agreed - Dragon is his best. I was always disappointed there weren't more Kez Maefele stories.
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:19 PM, Xmission <shpshftr@xmission.com> wrote: Dragon is his best work. Even though it is a big book, the writing is really tight.
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On Mar 18, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> wrote:
I too think Garrett has gone down hill, but thought the first three Instrumentality books were quite good and was eager for the 4th. I thought I saw on Amazon that it was 4th of 4...maybe not, can't find it now...either way, even if there is more to come, this was super sloppy.
Rereading Dragon Never Sleeps to reaffirm my affections.
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:08 PM, Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com> wrote:
Glen doesn't seem to be getting better as he's aged.
But I don't think it is directly his age, but the fact that his writing process had changed since he retired. He used to spend his days on the assembly line working over the story in his head and then typing it when he got home.
I remember him as part of a panel at WorldCon in 1996 pontificating about how writing had gone down hill with the advent of the computer. He remarked something to the effect that since typing drafts was hard, that it forced writers to really think about what they were writing. And that computers made it too easy to just spew out lots of words and that size and brevity didn't matter.
I think this shows in his early writing vs his writing over the past 10 years or so. The books from the past couple decades have been a lot thicker and not as tight, or anywhere as good.
Cheers,
-- Sebastian shpshftr@xmission.com
On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:02 AM, saulamca@aol.com wrote:
future story lines are a mystery here in Virginia too.
only hoping for more juice and less disapointment.
as I age, I find my favorite authors dying off, or fading away...
Rex Stout, Adam Hall, Ross Thomas...they only got better as they aged...
wonder if if was their editors?
-----Original Message----- From: c01demp <c01demp@aol.com> To: glencook-fans <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] GARRETT XV ? Re: Working Gods Mischief
So, what is happening about Garrett (and Strafa et al) Aside from the first pages and the very end, WBA left a very sour taste in my mouth--and even the ending in its totality was unpleasant.
Doc D -----Original Message----- From: saulamca <saulamca@aol.com> To: jkalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com>; glencook-fans < glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:55 am Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Also finished last night - and agree, it's not well wrapped up - but also Not sure that this was the last in the series. am ever hopeful.
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author < glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 7:20 am Subject: [Glencook-fans] Working Gods Mischief
Finished the last installment of the Instrumentalities of the Night and after having reread the first three prior. I'm disappointed. Piper Hecht/Else Tage is one of Cook's better creations and WGM doesn't nearly do justice to what had been presented previously.
I remember reading an interview some time ago where Cook said that sales weren't good and so wonder if the original intent was to have a longer series and he had to wrap things up prematurely. Even taking that into account, the book felt like it was racing along toward something that never materialized, leaving lots of loose ends and an unsatisfying, unresolved conclusion.
Jerry Kalayjian
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