At 08:00 AM 6/29/02 EDT, Bob Carr wrote:

Are discussions about religious, political and moral issues really needed on this fractal group get together? It's getting to be disgusting!

I agree. I also accept responsibility for this round of off-topic banter. Being in a rush, I tried to save a minute or two by sending the same letter to the two lists via a C.Copy. I should have taken the time to edit the political stuff from the version that went to the Fractint list. Such blatantly off-topic material will not be posted to this list again. The philofractal list, which thrives on frivolous debate is a different story. Jim M.