Important Message for Paul and Scott
I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
Return-Path: <BLIVOT1@aol.com> From: BLIVOT1@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:35:57 EST Subject: FOTD Website To: jamth@mindspring.com (Jim Muth)
Hello Jim, I am the owner of the federally registered trademark Blivot which is listed in the Library of Congress. I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense. If you wish to use my trademark e-mail me at <blivot1@aol.com> for licensing agreement.
Apparently the non-word 'blivot', which I might have used in a FOTD, is a registered trademark. Since I am not the owner of the offending web site/sites, I pass the letter on here so that Paul and/or Scott can be aware that someone might have his feathers ruffled. I have contacted the sender, telling him that the FOTD web sites are not mine. BTW, there will be no FOTD for today, December 21. Jim M.
This is crazy! These things were used on golf courses long before this guy was around! In WWII factories they were everywhere...a substitute for the thingymajig! ( I hope that the thingymajig isn't trademarked, too). There *is* such a thing as common usage, I believe. Remember the three-pronged, (or was it two?), eye-twisting three dimensional fork of that name? John W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Muth" <jamth@mindspring.com> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <philofractal@lists.fractalus.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [Fractint] Important Message for Paul and Scott
I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
Return-Path: <BLIVOT1@aol.com> From: BLIVOT1@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:35:57 EST Subject: FOTD Website To: jamth@mindspring.com (Jim Muth)
Hello Jim, I am the owner of the federally registered trademark Blivot which is listed in the Library of Congress. I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense. If you wish to use my trademark e-mail me at <blivot1@aol.com> for licensing agreement.
Apparently the non-word 'blivot', which I might have used in a FOTD, is a registered trademark. Since I am not the owner of the offending web site/sites, I pass the letter on here so that Paul and/or Scott can be aware that someone might have his feathers ruffled. I have contacted the sender, telling him that the FOTD web sites are not mine.
BTW, there will be no FOTD for today, December 21.
Jim M.
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Thingamajig isn't registered yet. Looks like someone who's gone overboard in trying to protect his trademark (putting the best face on it). If the term has been used of his sort of golf gadget for years, then I hope he goes after someone who'll fight it out. Mike John Wilson wrote:
This is crazy! These things were used on golf courses long before this guy was around! In WWII factories they were everywhere...a substitute for the thingymajig! ( I hope that the thingymajig isn't trademarked, too). There *is* such a thing as common usage, I believe. Remember the three-pronged, (or was it two?), eye-twisting three dimensional fork of that name?
John W.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Muth" <jamth@mindspring.com> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <philofractal@lists.fractalus.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [Fractint] Important Message for Paul and Scott
I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
Return-Path: <BLIVOT1@aol.com> From: BLIVOT1@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:35:57 EST Subject: FOTD Website To: jamth@mindspring.com (Jim Muth)
Hello Jim, I am the owner of the federally registered trademark Blivot which is listed in the Library of Congress. I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense. If you wish to use my trademark e-mail me at <blivot1@aol.com> for licensing agreement.
Apparently the non-word 'blivot', which I might have used in a FOTD, is a registered trademark. Since I am not the owner of the offending web site/sites, I pass the letter on here so that Paul and/or Scott can be aware that someone might have his feathers ruffled. I have contacted the sender, telling him that the FOTD web sites are not mine.
BTW, there will be no FOTD for today, December 21.
Jim M.
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Jim Muth wrote:
I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense.
My lawyers can deal with his lawyers!! ;-} Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
Well, for a start off, this guy can tackle the publishers of Webster's. I think that the first definition is very applicable! ------------------------------------------------------- Hypertext Webster Gateway <<blivot>>
From Jargon File (4.3.0, 30 APR 2001) (jargon)
blivet /bliv'*t/ n. [allegedly from a World War II military term meaning "ten pounds of manure in a five-pound bag"] 1. An intractable problem. 2. A crucial piece of hardware that can't be fixed or replaced if it breaks. 3. A tool that has been hacked over by so many incompetent programmers that it has become an unmaintainable tissue of hacks. 4. An out-of-control but unkillable development effort. 5. An embarrassing bug that pops up during a customer demo. 6. In the subjargon of computer security specialists, a denial-of-service attack performed by hogging limited resources that have no access controls (for example, shared spool space on a multi-user system). This term has other meanings in other technical cultures; among experimental physicists and hardware engineers of various kinds it seems to mean any random object of unknown purpose (similar to hackish use of {frob}). It has also been used to describe an amusing trick-the-eye drawing resembling a three-pronged fork that appears to depict a three-dimensional object until one realizes that the parts fit together in an impossible way. John W. ---------------------------------------------------
From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02) (foldoc)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <philofractal@lists.fractalus.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:16 PM Subject: [philofractal] Re: Important Message for Paul and Scott
Jim Muth wrote:
I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense.
My lawyers can deal with his lawyers!! ;-}
Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
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Why do I like your attitude Paul? I don't like folks who get too uppity either. Hmmm, do I owe Bill O'rielly of Fox News for my use of the "Folks"? 8--{> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <philofractal@lists.fractalus.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: [Fractint] Re: Important Message for Paul and Scott
Jim Muth wrote:
I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense.
My lawyers can deal with his lawyers!! ;-}
Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
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Hi There, I own the domain blivot.co.uk Can I have a piece of the action? Paddy Duncan :) -----Original Message----- From: fractint-bounces+padski=padski.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:fractint-bounces+padski=padski.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jim Muth Sent: 21 December 2003 17:51 To: fractint@mailman.xmission.com Cc: philofractal@lists.fractalus.com Subject: [Fractint] Important Message for Paul and Scott I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
Return-Path: <BLIVOT1@aol.com> From: BLIVOT1@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:35:57 EST Subject: FOTD Website To: jamth@mindspring.com (Jim Muth)
Hello Jim, I am the owner of the federally registered trademark Blivot which is listed in the Library of Congress. I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense. If you wish to use my trademark e-mail me at <blivot1@aol.com> for licensing agreement.
Apparently the non-word 'blivot', which I might have used in a FOTD, is a registered trademark. Since I am not the owner of the offending web site/sites, I pass the letter on here so that Paul and/or Scott can be aware that someone might have his feathers ruffled. I have contacted the sender, telling him that the FOTD web sites are not mine. BTW, there will be no FOTD for today, December 21. Jim M. _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint
The email is clearly an internet scam. There actually is a www.blivot.com which is the web site for M&P Plastic Fabrication. Their emails use the mpplastics.com domain. Tim
I received this e-mail an hour or so ago:
Return-Path: <BLIVOT1@aol.com> From: BLIVOT1@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:35:57 EST Subject: FOTD Website To: jamth@mindspring.com (Jim Muth)
Hello Jim, I am the owner of the federally registered trademark Blivot which is listed in the Library of Congress. I must ask you to eliminate the word blivot on your website, unless you wish to be licensed by my corporation to use my trademark. Usage of a registered trademark and the trademark symbol without expressed written permission is a federal offense. If you wish to use my trademark e-mail me at <blivot1@aol.com> for licensing agreement.
Apparently the non-word 'blivot', which I might have used in a FOTD, is a registered trademark. Since I am not the owner of the offending web site/sites, I pass the letter on here so that Paul and/or Scott can be aware that someone might have his feathers ruffled. I have contacted the sender, telling him that the FOTD web sites are not mine.
BTW, there will be no FOTD for today, December 21.
Jim M.
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In amusing myself with the "blivot" thread, I noticed that if you do a google search for blivot, what pops up FIRST is: http://home.att.net/~Fractals_1/FotD_99-03-02.html Jim, you're famous! That's undoubtedly how <blivot1@aol.com> found you. Funny that www.blivot.com doesn't show up until the 5th page. This is getting seriously off topic, but who cares, it's nearly Christmas :-) BTW, our friend <blivot1@aol.com> isn't a scam artist after all as I alleged, he's merely ridiculous. He does have a connection with www.blivot.com. His email appears at the page: http://www.mpplastics.com/blivot/proshop/wedges.htm But I sure wouldn't worry about any legal actions concerning a 1999 FOTD posting that named a fractal "Blivot". That guy didn't even deserve an answer. The chances that naming a FOTD Blivot hurts him financially is exactly zero. Of course IANAL. Tim
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