Re: [Fractint] [fractint} pr_2d-1_2d-1_M1
OK , accepted. I just did not like to see 2 Imgur cookies on my omputer that windows could not block and that transmit your address to who knows and are used for spying. Other cloud services do not do that, just will not open images from that sender anymore.. Albrecht On 31.01.2018 22:44, Timothy Wegner wrote:
I respect your concern, but right now I don't see any reason to ban Mike Frazier.
Yet Albrecht uses Microsoft OneDrive and Windows 10, which is the biggest piece of spyware ever invented. Does your formulae work in Mike's Fracton? If so, perhaps Albrecht should switch to a Mac. I'll stick with Linux and my own domain, thank you. On January 31, 2018 1:44:53 PM HST, Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac@t-online.de> wrote:
OK , accepted. I just did not like to see 2 Imgur cookies on my omputer that windows could not block and that transmit your address to who knows and are used for spying. Other cloud services do not do that, just will not open images from that sender anymore.. Albrecht
On 31.01.2018 22:44, Timothy Wegner wrote:
I respect your concern, but right now I don't see any reason to ban Mike Frazier.
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True, but that´s a different story. You know that when you install it and take care. And MS is not malware, hopefully, but unknown sites, that collect data ?? Albrecht On 01.02.2018 00:56, David W. Jones wrote:
Yet Albrecht uses Microsoft OneDrive and Windows 10, which is the biggest piece of spyware ever invented.
By default, Cortana has an active keylogger sending your keystrokes to Microsoft. If that's not malware, then why do you worry about an "unknown" site (like Imgur, which apparently is unknown only to you) leaving a cookie when you visit their site? You know the saying, if the service is free, *you* (private info about you) are the product they sell. Applies to MS, Twitter, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, etc. So install Cookie Autodelete, a good ad blocker, route your browsing through TOR, and get your own domain. Then you - and others - don't have to worry. Enough from me. On January 31, 2018 2:15:24 PM HST, Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac@t-online.de> wrote:
True, but that´s a different story. You know that when you install it and take care. And MS is not malware, hopefully, but unknown sites, that collect data ?? Albrecht
On 01.02.2018 00:56, David W. Jones wrote:
Yet Albrecht uses Microsoft OneDrive and Windows 10, which is the biggest piece of spyware ever invented.
-- David W. Jones gnome@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail.
David, I have Windows 10 but have taken precautions. 1) I do not use Cortana or OneDrive. 2) You can manually turn off most telemetry, but you have to check after O/S updates as Microsoft will try to turn them back on. 3) There is a great freeware tool to take care of more than you can do in Windows settings, and keep an eye out for O/S update setting changes: Spybot Anti-Beacon - https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/ I have been using it for almost 2 years and can attest it does a good job. - Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Jones" <gnome@hawaii.rr.com> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:43:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] [fractint} pr_2d-1_2d-1_M1 By default, Cortana has an active keylogger sending your keystrokes to Microsoft. If that's not malware, then why do you worry about an "unknown" site (like Imgur, which apparently is unknown only to you) leaving a cookie when you visit their site? You know the saying, if the service is free, *you* (private info about you) are the product they sell. Applies to MS, Twitter, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, etc. So install Cookie Autodelete, a good ad blocker, route your browsing through TOR, and get your own domain. Then you - and others - don't have to worry. Enough from me. On January 31, 2018 2:15:24 PM HST, Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac@t-online.de> wrote:
True, but that´s a different story. You know that when you install it and take care. And MS is not malware, hopefully, but unknown sites, that collect data ?? Albrecht
On 01.02.2018 00:56, David W. Jones wrote:
Yet Albrecht uses Microsoft OneDrive and Windows 10, which is the biggest piece of spyware ever invented.
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Thanks, sounds much like what I did on the Windows side of my wife's laptop. (She never uses that side, she uses Linux.) I'll check out Spybot Anti-Beacon, sounds like it would help alot. On January 31, 2018 3:16:57 PM HST, "mchris@value.net - Webmail" <mchris@value.net> wrote:
David,
I have Windows 10 but have taken precautions.
1) I do not use Cortana or OneDrive.
2) You can manually turn off most telemetry, but you have to check after O/S updates as Microsoft will try to turn them back on.
3) There is a great freeware tool to take care of more than you can do in Windows settings, and keep an eye out for O/S update setting changes:
Spybot Anti-Beacon - https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/
I have been using it for almost 2 years and can attest it does a good job.
- Bud
----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Jones" <gnome@hawaii.rr.com> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:43:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] [fractint} pr_2d-1_2d-1_M1
By default, Cortana has an active keylogger sending your keystrokes to Microsoft. If that's not malware, then why do you worry about an "unknown" site (like Imgur, which apparently is unknown only to you) leaving a cookie when you visit their site?
You know the saying, if the service is free, *you* (private info about you) are the product they sell. Applies to MS, Twitter, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, etc.
So install Cookie Autodelete, a good ad blocker, route your browsing through TOR, and get your own domain. Then you - and others - don't have to worry.
Enough from me.
On January 31, 2018 2:15:24 PM HST, Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac@t-online.de> wrote:
True, but that´s a different story. You know that when you install it and take care. And MS is not malware, hopefully, but unknown sites, that collect data ?? Albrecht
On 01.02.2018 00:56, David W. Jones wrote:
Yet Albrecht uses Microsoft OneDrive and Windows 10, which is the biggest piece of spyware ever invented.
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David, thanks for the tips. I have Ultimate adblocker on firefox and uninstalled cortana completely.and a hot tip for users who dont want linux : Using VirtualXP from Oracle since more then 2 years, still the first installed edition. It´s still stable, fast and SAFE I dont even need antivirus, adware remover and so on but did not have a single malware or spyware attack or anything similar. Oracle has done a terific job, the reason is also that the its too difficult to attack a virtual system or maybe it´s not worth the effort because there are not enough users.And the XP Dosmode is simply the best and fastest available. Re One Drive: You must release all files if they shall be availabale for opening and downloading so you are forced to select what you upload, no problem sofar for me, it´s your own stupidity if you have other files then the Onedrive folder open to sync. Albrecht On 01.02.2018 03:03, David W. Jones wrote:
Thanks, sounds much like what I did on the Windows side of my wife's laptop. (She never uses that side, she uses Linux.)
I'll check out Spybot Anti-Beacon, sounds like it would help alot
How did you uninstall Cortana completely? Using something like this approach? https://winaero.com/blog/how-to-uninstall-and-remove-cortana-in-windows-10/ Or this one? https://superuser.com/questions/949569/can-i-completely-disable-cortana-on-w... I put Spybot Anti-Beacon on my wife's Windows 10 installation, had it block everything. Then Windows Update put on the MS update to undo the Spectre/Meltdown fix. So I ran Spybot AB again - and had to disable a number of the trackers MS re-enabled. All far more hassle than Windows 10 is worth. For what its worth, I use Oracle VirtualBox on Linux and have a running WindowsXP VM on it. By the way, Windows XP may be a bit more virus resistant because it cannot run a growing number of Windows 7/8/10 applications at all - possibly including viruses. I've also heard that there are no extant viruses that can run on Windows 3.1 or 95/98 - if you have old install disks of those, have a go. For my simple fractal needs, the native Linux SDL version works fine, as does the original version of XFractint. On 01/31/2018 08:20 PM, Albrecht Niekamp wrote:
David, thanks for the tips. I have Ultimate adblocker on firefox and uninstalled cortana completely.and a hot tip for users who dont want linux : Using VirtualXP from Oracle since more then 2 years, still the first installed edition. It´s still stable, fast and SAFE I dont even need antivirus, adware remover and so on but did not have a single malware or spyware attack or anything similar. Oracle has done a terific job, the reason is also that the its too difficult to attack a virtual system or maybe it´s not worth the effort because there are not enough users.And the XP Dosmode is simply the best and fastest available. Re One Drive: You must release all files if they shall be availabale for opening and downloading so you are forced to select what you upload, no problem sofar for me, it´s your own stupidity if you have other files then the Onedrive folder open to sync. Albrecht
On 01.02.2018 03:03, David W. Jones wrote:
Thanks, sounds much like what I did on the Windows side of my wife's laptop. (She never uses that side, she uses Linux.)
I'll check out Spybot Anti-Beacon, sounds like it would help alot
-- David W. Jones gnome@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com
Albrecht Niekamp: "please consider if the sender can be blocked"
This seems a bit overblown. I am a long long time poster here. I don't care if you use Imgur or not. I was only trying to be helpful. I can never see Albrecht's images unless Hal reposts them on his website because the links don't work for me. There are so few of us. Why create a controversy? -- Mike Frazier www.fracton.org
Agreed, I´m sorry I overdid it a bit. It´s just about your cloudservice and got mad when I detected cookies apparently used for umwanted prurposes just by looking at your image. Albrecht Am 01.02.2018 um 15:57 schrieb Mike Frazier:
There are so few of us. Why create a controversy?
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