I just got the following email from Gary Osborn. REAL old timer fractint users will remember "Stone Souper" Lee Crocker and the Piclab program. BTW, Lee maintains a page at www.piclab.com. <<quote>> If you still have any interest in the piclab image processing program then I have recently converted it to a 32-bit Windows program. It is finally free of the DOS memory limitations. It can be downloaded from www.s-4.com/download. This image shows some of the new capabilites of the program. <<unquote>> Tim
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 09:00:10PM -0600, Tim Wegner wrote:
<<quote>> If you still have any interest in the piclab image processing program then I have recently converted it to a 32-bit Windows program. It is finally free of the DOS memory limitations. It can be downloaded from www.s-4.com/download. This image shows some of the new capabilites of the program. <<unquote>>
Yes, I have an interest, but for an Unix version. Any pointers ? Th. -- Donc chez VU, on avait mis en place un système de boîtier très design, qui permettait aux actionnaires de voter en appuyant au choix sur un des trois boutons disponibles (oui, non, n'a pas compris la question).
On 8 Jul 2002, at 19:49, Thierry B. wrote:
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 09:00:10PM -0600, Tim Wegner wrote:
<<quote>> If you still have any interest in the piclab image processing program then I have recently converted it to a 32-bit Windows program. It is finally free of the DOS memory limitations. It can be downloaded from www.s-4.com/download. This image shows some of the new capabilites of the program. <<unquote>>
Yes, I have an interest, but for an Unix version. Any pointers ?
And I would be interested in a Linux version. David gnome@hawaii.rr.com
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 06:49:44PM -1000, David Jones wrote:
Yes, I have an interest, but for an Unix version. Any pointers ?
And I would be interested in a Linux version.
I've started looking over this new version, but it was full of windowscentrism, and maybe it was better to start from the original Dos sources and build a really portable version. Any idea ? Th. -- Le 20 Mar 2002 09:06:29 GMT, Romain a écrit :
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On 9 Jul 2002, at 9:52, Thierry B. wrote:
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 06:49:44PM -1000, David Jones wrote:
Yes, I have an interest, but for an Unix version. Any pointers ?
And I would be interested in a Linux version.
I've started looking over this new version, but it was full of windowscentrism, and maybe it was better to start from the original Dos sources and build a really portable version. Any idea ?
Might depend on what "windowcentrisms" you're talking about. UI? Memory allocation/management? Maybe something like Winemaker (IIRC, a component of the WINE project to facilitate compiling Windows code into native Linux executables) could help. I've always thought - and mentioned on this list! - that what was needed was a back-end style Fractal Processing Engine which contains all the functions used to generate fractals, with a standard API for using the back-end. Then the finicky OS-specific stuff like UI widgets could be in a separate app that basically calls the Fractal Processing Engine API as needed. Opens up many fun possibilities - a wider variety of UIs for generating fractals, a client/server architecture allowing the FPE back-end to run on a different machine from the UI, much greater platform independence. It would be nice if Fractint's processing routines could be turned into such a beast, but maybe Piclab would be a better starting point. Or XFractint. David gnome@hawaii.rr.com
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:30:59PM -1000, David Jones wrote:
I've started looking over this new version, but it was full of windowscentrism, and maybe it was better to start from the original Dos sources and build a really portable version. Any idea ?
Might depend on what "windowcentrisms" you're talking about. UI? Memory allocation/management? Maybe something like Winemaker (IIRC, a component of the WINE project to facilitate compiling Windows code into native Linux executables) could help.
First report: http://la.buvette.org/tech/piclab/porting-to-unix.html but may be offtopic in this list ?... --
Thierry and David wrote:
Yes, I have an interest, but for an Unix version. Any pointers ?
And I would be interested in a Linux version.
I have a soft spot in my heart for Piclab, and there are certain things it does well. In particular, it's programmability is wonderful. However, the original Piclab author himself, Lee Crocker, uses GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) rather than his own program. Before anyone is willing to spend time improving the programming or further porting Piclab, she would have to make a case for herself that it could do something that GIMP can't do. The programmer who did the Windows port has been using Piclab for many years, and it was worth it to him to port the program. Tim
On 9 Jul 2002, at 17:50, Tim Wegner wrote:
Thierry and David wrote:
Yes, I have an interest, but for an Unix version. Any pointers ?
And I would be interested in a Linux version.
I have a soft spot in my heart for Piclab, and there are certain things it does well. In particular, it's programmability is wonderful.
That appealed to me.
However, the original Piclab author himself, Lee Crocker, uses GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) rather than his own program.
He uses TheGIMP to generate fractals? How so? I have The GIMP on my Linux box!
Before anyone is willing to spend time improving the programming or further porting Piclab, she would have to make a case for herself that it could do something that GIMP can't do. The programmer who did the Windows port
Of Piclab?
has been using Piclab for many years, and it was worth it to him to port the program.
David gnome@hawaii.rr.com
On 10 Jul 2002, James R. McKenzie asked... I had the Win32 version of GIMP at one time, anyone know where it's still available? I know this is a list about FRACTINT but still I'd love to have GIMP back and can't find it on any of my ZIP disks. As always, any/all help would be appreciated. T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie jimmckenzie@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jones" <gnome@hawaii.rr.com> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Piclab
On 9 Jul 2002, at 17:50, Tim Wegner wrote:
Thierry and David wrote:
Yes, I have an interest, but for an Unix version. Any pointers ?
And I would be interested in a Linux version.
I have a soft spot in my heart for Piclab, and there are certain things it does well. In particular, it's programmability is wonderful.
That appealed to me.
However, the original Piclab author himself, Lee Crocker, uses GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) rather than his own program.
He uses TheGIMP to generate fractals? How so? I have The GIMP on my Linux box!
Before anyone is willing to spend time improving the programming or further porting Piclab, she would have to make a case for herself that it could do something that GIMP can't do. The programmer who did the Windows port
Of Piclab?
has been using Piclab for many years, and it was worth it to him to port the program.
David gnome@hawaii.rr.com
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James R. McKenzie wrote:
I had the Win32 version of GIMP at one time, anyone know where it's still available?
The Google search engine turns up a few interesting sites: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Win32+GIMP&btnG=Google+Se... Sincerely, P.N.L. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go
"James R. McKenzie" wrote:
On 10 Jul 2002, James R. McKenzie asked... I had the Win32 version of GIMP at one time, anyone know where it's still available? I know this is a list about FRACTINT but still I'd love to have GIMP back and can't find it on any of my ZIP disks. As always, any/all help would be appreciated.
T H A N K Y O U
I agree that this is slightly off topic so I'll keep it short. Latest version of gimp for windows at: http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/ It is slightly related to fractals at least because there are a few fractal tools available for the gimp. Gimp fractal related filters: filters/render/pattern/fractal_explorer filters/render/nature/ifs-compose filters/render/nature/flame filters/map/fractal-trace I think it would be very useful if someone could write a plug-in fractint formula parser for the gimp. Any takers? Noel Giffin
At 00:48 11/07/2002, you wrote:
On 10 Jul 2002, James R. McKenzie asked... I had the Win32 version of GIMP at one time, anyone know where it's still available? I know this is a list about FRACTINT but still I'd love to have GIMP back and can't find it on any of my ZIP disks. As always, any/all help would be appreciated.
Sure it's available - I have 1.2 on my machine now. I forget the exact link to it, but it's given at http://www.gimp.org/. Morgan L. Owens "Everybody loves the Gimp"
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