Re: [Fractint] Fractint and NTFS
Jay, I need to ask a few questions here first. What brand of HDD is it? Is it a DIY or a store bought (did you put the USB together yourself or did you buy pre-assembled) and did you format it yourself when you got it? I always format them when I get them (from the command line, don't like the GUI there) and as for the "I put it together myself" approach for some reason they seem to be as buggy as the Amazon right now. Never use the Tandem (2-fer) snap-in SATA hard-drive mounts. If you use 2 in them the speed always suffers and so does the reliablity. BTW which version of NTFS are you using? Don't know if these questions are even relative but hope it helps. Need more info though. -----Original Message-----
From: Jay Litwyn <brewhaha@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Sent: Apr 14, 2011 9:15 AM To: Advanced Paint By Number <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Fractint] Fractint and NTFS
Is it just me, or does everybody hav problems with flaky USB hardware?
I recently unplugged my USB key, because it was already disconnected (according to my computer, trying to make directories on it that already existed), so after plugging it in again, I am keeping it as an unreliable backup...like aren't they all, anyway? My two month old USB hard drive is about the same way, only worse, because the blue light on it reliably goes out when I access more than five files at once, so it also, will usually be disconnected.
I recently copied everything to my SATA drive (C--always too small), and only recently did I realize that FRACTINT should not be working with drive C, because it is NTFS. It does, anyway. So, I am thinking that either FracTint has been upgraded to support NTFS, or NTFS (SP3) haz been upgraded to support software that expects FAT32. Or, maybe the problem is that I haven't tried batch files (simplgif), yet. Or, maybe I was misinformed in the first place, and FracTint was always compatible with NTFS. After all, I don't know any other software with the same (reputed?) problem of incompatibility with NTFS.
I am certainly glad that I don't need to repartition drive C.
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I put a PATA drive into a VANTEC USB-PATA converter (and now that I understand how industry is moving towards SATA, I regret buying the PATA, and I did not realize my motherboard was going down, too, at the time). As for USB hard-drives with no assembly required, yes, they should be more reliable; naturally, fewer connections. That does not explain the USB key (FAT32) reliability problem. As for the version of NTFS, whichever comes with WinXP/SP3, although you never can tell whether NTFS got a silent upgrade during one of those updates that purports to fix one silly little bug with like 500kB of compiled code. The most relevant thing to this group is that, somewhere along the line, either NTFS got upgraded (in backward compatibility), or FracTint did. At least my source, and I forget who, exactly, or where their web page was, was pretty sure that NTFS (or MicroSoft's making it the usual and default file system) made WinXP incompatible with FracTint. I've been religiously maintaining a FAT32 partition ever since -- never even checked or asked if FracTint had made changes for NTFS, and I still suspect that it did not need to, because I hav a lot of old software, and none of it has a problem with NTFS. Sure, pkzip 2.04g stores 8.3 file-names, and it works a *lot* faster than Windows' internal zip. jimmckenzie@earthlink.net wrote:
Jay, I need to ask a few questions here first.
What brand of HDD is it? Is it a DIY or a store bought (did you put the USB together yourself or did you buy pre-assembled) and did you format it yourself when you got it? I always format them when I get them (from the command line, don't like the GUI there) and as for the "I put it together myself" approach for some reason they seem to be as buggy as the Amazon right now. Never use the Tandem (2-fer) snap-in SATA hard-drive mounts. If you use 2 in them the speed always suffers and so does the reliablity. BTW which version of NTFS are you using? Don't know if these questions are even relative but hope it helps. Need more info though.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Litwyn <brewhaha@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Sent: Apr 14, 2011 9:15 AM To: Advanced Paint By Number <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Fractint] Fractint and NTFS
Is it just me, or does everybody hav problems with flaky USB hardware?
I recently unplugged my USB key, because it was already disconnected (according to my computer, trying to make directories on it that already existed), so after plugging it in again, I am keeping it as an unreliable backup...like aren't they all, anyway? My two month old USB hard drive is about the same way, only worse, because the blue light on it reliably goes out when I access more than five files at once, so it also, will usually be disconnected.
I recently copied everything to my SATA drive (C--always too small), and only recently did I realize that FRACTINT should not be working with drive C, because it is NTFS. It does, anyway. So, I am thinking that either FracTint has been upgraded to support NTFS, or NTFS (SP3) haz been upgraded to support software that expects FAT32. Or, maybe the problem is that I haven't tried batch files (simplgif), yet. Or, maybe I was misinformed in the first place, and FracTint was always compatible with NTFS. After all, I don't know any other software with the same (reputed?) problem of incompatibility with NTFS.
I am certainly glad that I don't need to repartition drive C.
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