Paul wrote...
I have it listed within my database of fractal applications and their users. But my online listing only shows a small number of the actual total available, because of the quantity involved (over 600). I list only those programs with the most users, starting at the top of the list and working my way down.
I don't think much gets past you, Paul, and I thought you may have known of it. David wrote...
I was going to test that since I have 64-bit Java on 64-bit Linux, but it looks like it's Windows-only?
From what I've seen it has to be developed in Windows so it is probably stuck in Windows. There is no problems created from having 64-bit java and 32-bit java both installed in Windows. So I have tried Mandel Machine. Upping the iteration limits really got my PC fans going. It is based on a new concept of generating the Mandelbrot fractal so I did some research on it. Apparently there has been some recent advances in fractal math. Pixels are calculated based on values from adjacent pixels. But this wasn't always giving valid values. Last year there was a breakthrough to get rid of these glitches, although they have to be found first then corrected. Not being highly adept in math, this is all I know. http://fractalmonster.deviantart.com/journal/New-Revolutionary-Algorithm-for... http://dinkydauset.deviantart.com/journal/Perturbation-for-the-Mandelbrot-se... There is another program that also uses the new algorithm but it is also a windows program. http://chillheimer.de/kallesfraktaler/ The outstanding question is whether this is trickery or not. If the values end up being the same at each coordinate as the hard calculations then it really is a breakthrough. The major limitation then is that this only works for the Mandelbrot fractal. For that reason making zoom movies of various fractals with Fractint is still quite alive and well.
On 05/08/2015 09:07 AM, Roger Kaufman wrote:
Paul wrote...
I have it listed within my database of fractal applications and their users. But my online listing only shows a small number of the actual total available, because of the quantity involved (over 600). I list only those programs with the most users, starting at the top of the list and working my way down.
I don't think much gets past you, Paul, and I thought you may have known of it.
David wrote...
I was going to test that since I have 64-bit Java on 64-bit Linux, but it looks like it's Windows-only?
From what I've seen it has to be developed in Windows so it is probably stuck in Windows.
I don't see any reason why it "has to be developed on Windows" except for the fact that the author used the proprietary MS ASM. Java certainly isn't restricted to Windows. I checked the discussion forum link, and the proprietary MS ASM stuff is the only barrier to running this on Linux or Mac OS X. I'd expect a skilled ASM programmer could do the same thing in GNU-standard ASM, too.
There is no problems created from having 64-bit java and 32-bit java both installed in Windows. So I have tried Mandel Machine. Upping the iteration limits really got my PC fans going.
Excellent!
It is based on a new concept of generating the Mandelbrot fractal so I did some research on it. Apparently there has been some recent advances in fractal math. Pixels are calculated based on values from adjacent pixels. But this wasn't always giving valid values. Last year there was a breakthrough to get rid of these glitches, although they have to be found first then corrected. Not being highly adept in math, this is all I know.
http://fractalmonster.deviantart.com/journal/New-Revolutionary-Algorithm-for...
http://dinkydauset.deviantart.com/journal/Perturbation-for-the-Mandelbrot-se...
There is another program that also uses the new algorithm but it is also a windows program.
http://chillheimer.de/kallesfraktaler/
The outstanding question is whether this is trickery or not. If the values end up being the same at each coordinate as the hard calculations then it really is a breakthrough. The major limitation then is that this only works for the Mandelbrot fractal. For that reason making zoom movies of various fractals with Fractint is still quite alive and well.
Hmm, IIRC, Fractint's highly-optimized C and ASM also contain "shortcuts", so Fractint might not actually be doing all the "hard calculations" itself? Anyway, it looks like Fractint may be slower but is much, much more versatile. -- David W. Jones gnome@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com
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