From Osher Doctorow Ph.D.
I am glad to notice the heavy volume of replies to my Feigenbaum Constant and Weak Force posting, although it is amusing to notice that they mostly concern my comment that I'd forgotten what 666 means. I hadn't been reading the replies because I'd been watching the California Recall Election for Governor here in California, which may explain why I had trouble recalling what 666 means (?). Actually, I looked up 666 as internet keywords ("The number 666") after seeing the replies and apparently in Revelation verse 18 Chapter 13 the Number of the Beast 666 is mentioned, which is taken to mean the Devil. Also there are some hysterically funny jokes at geocities.com about 666, including extremely high precision 666.0000... and so on. Is there anything that one can learn about fractals or chaos from 666 aside from Jerry Iuliano's and my and your interesting comments? Well, this got me to thinking after reading the comments and looking up the sites mentioned: what exactly was 666 doing in the Gospel or New Testament? According to one site, 6 + 6 + 6 = 18, which is the verse in which it appears, and chapter 13 is supposed to represent death because of the 13 traitors, etc. Well, what if 666 was put into chapter 13 verse 18 by whoever wrote that verse knowing that 6 + 6 + 6 = 18? What would be the purpose of this? Let's put on our Fractal Thinking Caps (FTCs, which also stands for Federal Trade Commission incidentally), and think about this. Whoever wrote that wanted to point out that Armageddon was coming. I suppose that a visitor from Outer Space looking at the ensuing history of humanity would tend to agree, although not quite in the literal sense. But what better way for the writer of ch. 13 verse 18 to emphasize the importance of his/her verse and chapter than by a mystical emotional number which succeeding generations would remember more than the usual warnings of future doom? This moves us into the rather non-mainstream (if not dubious) field of historical reconstruction, but wait! There's more. What would give a scholar whose main literary interests had been the Old Testament an interest in 666? According to one of the sites, this was related to the worth of the gifts received by King Solomon from Egypt (I think via Queen Sheba). So it started in the Old Testament. According to this interpretation, it was simply appropriated into the New Testament. This isn't the first such case where Old Testament ideas were used in the New Testament. But what does King Solomon have to do with anything in Armaggedon? Well, Queen Sheba was so to speak his downfall (well, in a sense - I suppose that Bill Clinton would have other comments on that). His people had been slaves in Egypt. Also, King Solomon was the smartest King of Israel. To my recollection, he was into numerology in addition and was stated to have "spoken with animals". This would appeal to New Testament writers and scholars probably. Ladies and Gentlemen, what we may have here is a number 666 that represents not the Devil but Number Theory - the birth of Number Theory which led to fractals and chaos and to where we are today (give or take some problems off the internet). As for the member of Fractint who has the social security number with 666 in it, the person is not the Devil but a prospective assistant Moderator of Fracint! I've forgotten his/her name, but I'll look it up as soon as there is another pause in the California gubernatorial race. Osher Doctorow
Apologies in advance to anyone tired of this subject! I have been blessed (?) with a new box to work on, a Pentium 4 running XP Pro, with an Intel 82865G graphics card (actually built into the motherboard, I think). I have gleaned through past posts in vain, trying to discover a driver selection that will allow me to do anything except very low rez or disk-video. Any suggestions? Marty K
Marty, I'm running Widows XP Home on a Dell laptop (Inspiron 8200) with an Nvidia card. And to my amazement Fractint runs in high resolution mode...I'm no expert but I would bet it could be XP pro - try the home version. Perhaps others have other solutions. Alex
it depends on the hardware, the 2 xp versions have no video differences. I have the same problem, with xp home on 2 computers. Alex Dukay wrote:
Marty, I'm running Widows XP Home on a Dell laptop (Inspiron 8200) with an Nvidia card. And to my amazement Fractint runs in high resolution mode...I'm no expert but I would bet it could be XP pro - try the home version. Perhaps others have other solutions. Alex
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Martin Krikorian wrote:
I have been blessed (?) with a new box to work on, a Pentium 4 running XP Pro...... .....trying to discover a driver selection that will allow me to do anything except very low rez or disk-video. Any suggestions?
Here are some suggestions: 1. Find a Win-98 (or 95) system and create a bootable floppy disk from it. Then use that wherever you want to run FractInt. 2. Create a dual boot system. It's easy to dual boot several Microsoft operating systems - if you install the OSs in chronological order. That is, you generally need to install the oldest operating system first, then the next oldest, and so forth. However, there is a way that you can install Win-98 in a dual boot configuration after XP has been installed, provided your system partition (usually the C:\ drive) is formatted in FAT or FAT32. This will not work if your system partition has been formatted in NTFS. After you install 98 (in a separate partition from XP), you'll have to repair the XP boot loader, which is overwritten by the Win-98 installation procedure. If you're feeling brave, you can find the detailed instructions for installing Win-98 after XP at: http://www.winxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=030930HT-Install_98 3. Try a graphics card still capable of handling VESA. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
Martin wrote:
I have been blessed (?) with a new box to work on, a Pentium 4 running XP Pro, with an Intel 82865G graphics card (actually built into the motherboard, I think). I have gleaned through past posts in vain, trying to discover a driver selection that will allow me to do anything except very low rez or disk-video. Any suggestions?
Go to http://www.scitechsoft.com/products/ent/free_titles.html The old products univesa and sci tech display doctor are now free. Try them and see if they are able to add VESA support to your board. Then you could use the VESA boards. Since these products are old and your board is new, this may be a long shot. Iff you (or anyone) tries this, please let me know. Tim
Tim Wegner wrote:
Go to
http://www.scitechsoft.com/products/ent/free_titles.html
The old products univesa and sci tech display doctor are now free. Try them and see if they are able to add VESA support to your board. Then you could use the VESA boards.
Since these products are old and your board is new, this may be a long shot. Iff you (or anyone) tries this, please let me know.
I have had success in getting fractint to run under XP-pro on my new PC at work. (Ssshhh!) I'll pass these findings on in hopes that it may help others having problems. I was getting complete graphics garbage except in very low res modes until I did the following: --------------------------------------------- fractint under windows XP Pro Graphics environment: NEC MultiSync FE991SB on Intel 82865G Graphics Controller Windows screen resolution set to 1280x1024 Colour quality - low (8 bit) Colour quality must be set to low or it won't work. If the 8 bit modes are not displayed you may have to add them. From the control panel double click on the display icon. Select the Settings option. On the display properties window check your colour quality setting. Select 8-bit. If not present select the advanced options button to display more control tabs and select the Adaptor tab. From that screen select 'List all Modes' to pop up a small window showing a complete list of all valid graphics modes for your graphics adaptor. Scroll through until you find an appropriate 256 colour mode. It doesn't have to be 1024x768. After your selection is highlighted click okay to switch to that mode. Make sure that fractint's compatibility mode is set to 256 colours from right clicking on the fractint icon and selecting preferences. From the preference menu select compatibility mode and under display settings select 256 colors. From Screen menu select full screen option. Then double clicking on the fractint Icon will start the program and I can now use shift-F7 to select a 1024x768x8bit colour mode. All functions work including colour cycling and the colour palette editor and mode switching between text and graphics without loss of on-screen fractal image. I am using the DOS UnivBE drivers mentioned by Tim, as well, although I'm not sure they are required. They wouldn't pass their self tests until I made the above changes to the windows graphics adaptor modes. Hope this helps, Noel Giffin
Noel Giffin is my hero! These instructions worked perfectly, and I am now happily switching back and forth on Win XP Pro from windows applications to Fractint with no problems. Thanks very much! Marty K On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 02:46 PM, Noel Giffin wrote:
I have had success in getting fractint to run under XP-pro on my new PC at work. (Ssshhh!) I'll pass these findings on in hopes that it may help others having problems. I was getting complete graphics garbage except in very low res modes until I did the following:
--------------------------------------------- fractint under windows XP Pro Graphics environment: NEC MultiSync FE991SB on Intel 82865G Graphics Controller Windows screen resolution set to 1280x1024 Colour quality - low (8 bit)
Colour quality must be set to low or it won't work. If the 8 bit modes are not displayed you may have to add them. From the control panel double click on the display icon. Select the Settings option. On the display properties window check your colour quality setting. Select 8-bit. If not present select the advanced options button to display more control tabs and select the Adaptor tab. From that screen select 'List all Modes' to pop up a small window showing a complete list of all valid graphics modes for your graphics adaptor. Scroll through until you find an appropriate 256 colour mode. It doesn't have to be 1024x768. After your selection is highlighted click okay to switch to that mode. Make sure that fractint's compatibility mode is set to 256 colours from right clicking on the fractint icon and selecting preferences. From the preference menu select compatibility mode and under display settings select 256 colors. From Screen menu select full screen option.
Then double clicking on the fractint Icon will start the program and I can now use shift-F7 to select a 1024x768x8bit colour mode. All functions work including colour cycling and the colour palette editor and mode switching between text and graphics without loss of on-screen fractal image.
I am using the DOS UnivBE drivers mentioned by Tim, as well, although I'm not sure they are required. They wouldn't pass their self tests until I made the above changes to the windows graphics adaptor modes.
Hope this helps,
Noel Giffin
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Doesn't work for me, on SF7 and even SF3 modes, the image is drawn, but I can't get out of the image, or do anything short of turning off the laptop and turning it back on. I haven't tried those dos drivers mentioned at the end though. Martin Krikorian wrote:
Noel Giffin is my hero! These instructions worked perfectly, and I am now happily switching back and forth on Win XP Pro from windows applications to Fractint with no problems. Thanks very much!
Marty K
On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 02:46 PM, Noel Giffin wrote:
I have had success in getting fractint to run under XP-pro on my new PC at work. (Ssshhh!) I'll pass these findings on in hopes that it may help others having problems. I was getting complete graphics garbage except in very low res modes until I did the following:
--------------------------------------------- fractint under windows XP Pro Graphics environment: NEC MultiSync FE991SB on Intel 82865G Graphics Controller Windows screen resolution set to 1280x1024 Colour quality - low (8 bit)
Colour quality must be set to low or it won't work. If the 8 bit modes are not displayed you may have to add them. From the control panel double click on the display icon. Select the Settings option. On the display properties window check your colour quality setting. Select 8-bit. If not present select the advanced options button to display more control tabs and select the Adaptor tab. From that screen select 'List all Modes' to pop up a small window showing a complete list of all valid graphics modes for your graphics adaptor. Scroll through until you find an appropriate 256 colour mode. It doesn't have to be 1024x768. After your selection is highlighted click okay to switch to that mode. Make sure that fractint's compatibility mode is set to 256 colours from right clicking on the fractint icon and selecting preferences. From the preference menu select compatibility mode and under display settings select 256 colors. From Screen menu select full screen option.
Then double clicking on the fractint Icon will start the program and I can now use shift-F7 to select a 1024x768x8bit colour mode. All functions work including colour cycling and the colour palette editor and mode switching between text and graphics without loss of on-screen fractal image.
I am using the DOS UnivBE drivers mentioned by Tim, as well, although I'm not sure they are required. They wouldn't pass their self tests until I made the above changes to the windows graphics adaptor modes.
Hope this helps,
Noel Giffin
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