Hi, JackOfTrade. Did you change the colours? This will kill the 3d effect. If not, there must be a problem with some setting, monitor or program, because the effect is rather drastic if the colours are ok. It hit me at first glance when I was looking for a zooming spot. To be sure please email your image to my private address, I will check and compare with my version. Albrecht -----Original Message----- From: fractint-bounces+niekamp=ish.de@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:fractint-bounces+niekamp=ish.de@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of JackOfTradeZ@comcast.net Sent: Montag, 18. April 2011 07:09 To: fractint@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Fractint] 67156d Fractal tower . I dont see a staircase, but the image is quite chaotic. Try zooming back out - it is interesting. At around E-004 it looks like a brite red curtain over a spherical "universe" unfolding, then further back out a series of concentric circles. Strange. .