I have never said "old music good, new music bad". In fact, I love Stravinsky and some others. I like some and dislike some, both new and old music. I only pointed to the fact that new classical (note: classical, not nearly popular such as Vangelis') music is usually (note: usually) harsher and more dissonant than older music. Regarding "harsh and dissonant music" that has been written in the past, I'd like to know some examples, not being the Capriccio Stravagante by Carlo Farina I mentioned before. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morgan L. Owens" <packrat@nznet.gen.nz> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com>; <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FOTD 29-12-01 (The Secret of Time [4])
At 21:20 31/12/2001 -0300, Ricardo M. Forno wrote:
Anyhow, the subject of dissonance is clarified:
I summarise what I've been saying. The charge "old music good, new music bad" is bogus.
"Harsh and dissonant" music has been written in the past (and much that was written didn't survive the transition into equal temperament); and soul-seizing music is being written today.
Certainly, I wouldn't call Vangelis' "Chariots of Fire" - to pick one well-enough known example - harsh nor dissonant, and serves on its own as a counterexample to Jim Muth's claim.
The insistence that I compare harsh music of today with harmoniou music of the past is entirely spurious, and serves only as a vehicle for another of Jim Muth's installments of "What I think is wrong With Our Society". As such further debate is pointless.
Morgan L. Owens "What do you mean 'we', paleface?"
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