I found out about fractals by downloading a screen saver from AOL in 1994. I wondered how the image was made and started to investigate, which has taught me a lot, showed me even more, and opened a whole new artistic outlet for me. Before fractals, I thought that math could never equal art, and if it did, it would most certainly be art only to me and my geek friends. But Fractint changed all of that. My point is this: The screen saver that I downloaded only works with a 256 color palette. I never use it anymore. If I was just now looking for a new screen saver, I might have never downloaded it because of that fact, and I might have never learned about fractals. The people who say that Fractint should be run only on DOS boxes and has no place or reason to be on XP, etc... are just plain wrong, in my opinion. To run Fractint only on DOS limits its exposure and thereby limits its forward movement. The fact is that less and less people are using DOS & Windows 9x everyday. Microsoft just announced that they would start the first phase of end-of-life processing for Win 9x products in June of 2003. This means that progressively fewer people will have access to Fractint. I wonder what Mandelbrot himself might say if asked "Should we limit our research to a 20+ year old technology platform (even if it is working well), or start the move to current technology?" To me, Fractals are about exploration, moving to new boundaries, discovery, vision. They aren't about sameness and consistency. I say to limit Fractint to DOS is ridiculous. It is essentially a death sentence for such a great product. Maybe not a death sentence to some hardcore users, but most certainly to new, younger users. I'm sure there are new people 'discovering' Fractint on DOS, but that number dwindles daily. From reading the many posts to this group I know that I don't have the mathematical or programming skills that some of you have, or I'd try to make it work myself, but still I say "Move On!", "Progress!", "Discover!", "Learn!" The reason I joined this group was because I thought that it would embody the true spirit of the fractal - always digging deeper, looking for more. I'd be interested to hear what others think, but that's just my two cents worth. This situation reminds me of a saying that one of my old bosses used to tell me... "If we don't move towards the future, then we'll be alone in the pasture." Waiting for the mothership, Mark.