Ken, - The problem is fractint only supports video drivers for those old VESA - boards. AGP and PCI boards are not supported. More specifically, FractInt either needs direct knowledge of hardware or it needs a VESA interface to the hardware so that it can select modes. For the oldest group of cards, FractInt generally just programmed the hardware itself to whatever mode was required. Slightly newer cards provided the VESA interface in the BIOS, so programs could select video modes without knowing the details of the hardware. This was how FractInt was able to work with large numbers of graphics cards. Unfortunately for FractInt, VESA support in the BIOS faded into disuse when DirectX became more popular. Game developers--the last major group of programmers still wanting direct access to hardware--could move to Windows and theoretically simplify their development efforts. It isn't so much that FractInt doesn't support AGP and PCI cards; it's more than those newer cards no longer provide the VESA interface that FractInt needs to talk to them. Many cards provided only basic VESA support but even that is disappearing from new video cards. With Windows NT/2000/XP it gets even worse. As part of the need to enforce security within the operating system, only privileged programs (drivers) are allowed to access the hardware directly; other programs are prohibited. If a program wants to directly access the hardware, the operating system has to emulate it--it has to fake out the program, so the program thinks it's accessing the hardware, but it's really talking to the OS. This is slow and it requires substantial development in the OS. Microsoft would happily let this portion of the OS go away, because they want people to move to modern apps which don't do uncouth (in their mind) things like bang on the hardware directly. Windows emulated some VESA modes but they didn't always work right. I've not messed with XP to see how much support is there but I wouldn't expect much. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you.