Hi Tim, You have heard from me more than once since then :-} IMO, copyright law has not evolved to deal well with digital media. Ron Barnett -----Original Message----- From: fractint-bounces+fractals=hiddendimension.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:fractint-bounces+fractals=hiddendimension.com@mailman.xmission.c om]On Behalf Of Tim Wegner Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:55 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion Subject: Re: [Fractint] Re: [Fractdev] extras: all_maps, frmtut, if_else,phctutor When there's an actual case of infringement, the details matter more than general principles. There was one case I helped with about ten years ago that involved six or seven of the most active fractal artists, some of whom are still on this list. A book author subcontracted with an "artist" (who proclaimed himself incredibly brilliant and gifted) for material for the book CD (I believe the book author was innocent of any wrong doing). The only thing the plagiarist did to cover his tracks was change the names of the fractals. He didn't even change the order of the fractals as they were in the various artist's collections. The images were identical to the last pixel. He didn't even bother to rotate colors, zoom slightly, or tweak any parameters. He was not only dishonest he was lazy. The publisher settled and paid the artists a thousand dollars or so each, and I participated in the settlement. The thief just folded his business and disappeared and never paid a dime that I am aware of. How do I feel about it? Even though the offense was egregious, I can't say I felt good afterwards about having nailed the publisher, who after all was innocent. Some of the artists I helped I never heard from again. On balance, if I was in the same situation again I'd just let the artists fight (or not fight) their own battles. There are never really winners in legal battles, at least in my limited experience. Tim _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint