Hi Jack, You did it before! Forgotten? I have a file on my computer named Mandalaz\MandalaZoom.wmv dated may07, 2003. This was created with an earlier version of multifractal. Have you tried to zoom into the tweaked versions of "Big circle" ? Some of them generate in seconds. Sincerely, Albrecht -----Original Message----- From: fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of JackOfTradeZ@comcast.net Sent: Samstag, 9. April 2011 18:53 To: fractint@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Fractint] MultiFractalZ . They are awesome! The complexity is amazing - try zooming in. Too bad they take too long to generate, and so many parameters with complex numbers; I would like to try animating them but I dont think it can be done realistically. :( Cheers .