At 03:48 14/08/2002, Jim Muth wrote:
Morgan Owens wrote:
Check the original FOTD for August 8, which started this thread. In that letter I mentioned the four-dimensional nature of the Julibrot, which I often mention, and pointed out that the world we live in has only three dimensions, with no place for a four-dimensional object. I mentioned nothing about religion or the philosophy of science. As I recall, someone else posted a justified and IMO on-topic reply speculating about the nature of numbers and mathematics, and the mini-debate progressed from there. I have no idea where or how the topic of the conflict between science and religion entered the discussion.
Yes, I was the one who first posted the reply. S. Africanus then said something about mathematicians taking over cosmology and inventing black holes. John Wilson said that it was probably a topic for the philofractal list, I said that you tended to denigrate anything not mystical enough for you - in light of something you'd posted when I was posting some philosophical material. (You do realise that the only one you spoke in favour of was the most general-audience science popularisation of the lot? I'm afraid it was a troll.) You next suggested I had a problem with mysticism (I don't, really. I just have problems with how you present it.) Kathy Roth noted that many scientists are also religious, which I agreed with (though it was a bit of a veer); and it does tend to work against your frequent polarisations of the detbate. You were the first to explicitly mention a science/religion conflict, with an editorial insertion into my post that showed you misunderstood what I had written. This is often the case with your editorial insertions; it's almost as if you don't want to answer to what someone said, but only to what you wished they had said. Bloody irritating, that.
So I take it you waited a while so that people who might want to see your reply would've had time to subscribe before you posted it?
Most of the delay in my replies is due to the time difference between New Zealand and the east coast of the USA.
Can someone on the philofractal list compare the posting times of the post and the advertisement for the Fractint post? Morgan L. Owens " MT-1{ Axiom f angle 4 f=fg g=gf } "