Thought I'd clear up a few points. 1. Fractint has always been and will always be open source. This isn't just due to my opinion, it's because everyone who has ever contributed to it has done so with the understanding that it WAS open source. However, as far as my opinion is concerned, I am very happy it is open source, and if I could, I'd change the license over to GPL or a similar license. Easier said than done because we can no longer reach most code contributors. This license change could still happen, but it would be in conjunction with an extensive rewrite. 2. Thanks for all the kind offers of being willing to pay for upgrades. Money is not and never has been an issue. Developers contribute for their own reasons. 3. Right now Jonathan Osuch and occasional other contributers are the only ones maintaining the program. His interest (and my interest) are gravitating to Linux, but we are used to maintaining the Linux version in parallel to the DOS version so we do it. I have never lost interest. It's just that I have a job and a real life and am getting older. I still dream of diving back in. I might, or I might not, we'll see. 4. I don't think the present situation with Fractint is bad or sad. It's the way life is. Software, like people, have a life cycle. I am very pleased that this list is still active and many folks still get pleasure out of Fractint. I suspect Fractint will continue to have a following. It is even possible that it will have a rebirth on other platforms. Whether it fades away or has a rebirth remains to be seen. Either way, I'm happy. Change is the name of the game, especially in technology. Fractint assumed something like it's present form in 1989, which makes it about 13 years old, so in people years that's about a millenium. Not bad!! :-)