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Re: Question for God...
by harry bissell 23 Apr '06

23 Apr '06

Woah !!! I thought for just a minute that God was lurking on the Fractint list :^P H^) harry (who ~is~ going back to lurking on the Fractint list... and who presumes that God lurks as well, and on many other lists, co-temporally ;^)

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Question for god
by David Fisher 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

Jim asked: "..and if you had but one question to ask God, what would it be>" My question would be: Where are you? David M Fisher

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Reality
by David Fisher 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

Jim asked :...."and where does the individual person stop and the outer world begin.?" This question doesn't make much sense. Inherent in the syntax is the supposition that the two, the individual , and the outer world, are seperate. If that were possible there would be a demarkation between the two. Also inherent in the syntax is the supposition that being two dispartate objects, both rely on the other for existence. The problem lies in the definitions, and the paradigm assigned to each. In reality the individual is part of the outer world, and vice versa. And being unified neither requires the other to exist. The question is akin to the "tree falling in the forrest, and no one hears it fall." Does it make a sound? Again, the definition of sound is the answer, not the hearing, although most people will latch on to the "hearing". Sound is movement of energy through a medium in discrete packets of compression and rareification. If this occurs there is sound, it is not necessary for the energy to be received and interpreted to qualify. A further example would be to say that an idea didn't exist until it was thought . Not so. David M Fisher

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FOTD 22-04-06 (FOTD for 22-04-06 [No Rating])
by Jim Muth 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

FOTD -- April 22, 2006 (No Rating) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The formula of today's fractal combines Z and Z^4. The result- ing parent fractal resembles a Mandeloid with added attractions beyond East Valley. But unlike the Z+Z^3 Mandeloid, where the extra bay consists of one unbroken open area, the extra bay in today's parent fractal is divided into two lobes. Today's scene is located on the shoreline of the valley that separates the two lobes. I added interest to today's otherwise unimpressive image by ren- dering it with the outside set to 'tdis' and the inside set to 'bof61'. The inside fill was necessary, since so much of the image consists of flat 'inside' areas. This inside fill creates the radiating wedges. After pondering the final result for a few minutes, I decided that the image deserves neither name nor rating. The render time of 9 minutes is a bit on the slow side, but impatience may be avoided by downloading the pre-rendered GIF image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Heavy clouds moved in Friday morning here at Good Old Fractal Central, along with much cooler temperatures. By mid-afternoon light rain set in. The fractal cats thoroughly disagreed with these conditions and let their displeasure be known by demanding extra tuna with their evening meal. For me the day was busy, but the work was finished in time for today's quasi-glorious fractal to be found. The next fractal will appear in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and if you had but one question to ask God, what would it be? Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= FOTD_for_22-04-06 { ; time=0:09:11.95--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident center-mag=-0.01162948028339227/+0.018394765108803\ 46/3.118116e+009/1/-25/5.195524495418824e-007 params=1/1/1/4/0/0 float=y maxiter=2100 inside=bof61 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000aW6UUMNSaGRpGUnGXmGZkGajGdhGfgGieGkdKGSG\ ENCCI8AD4881637E2DM2JU1Oa1RbITcYVdmQaiL_eGYaBWY7UV\ FJaM8hTFaZMWdSQjZKpeEvk8udHtZQsSZrMgrGohQk_ZgRgcWj\ __lWdnShpPmsLquHvwDzyA4FJuWSrhPptMqgGrVBsI5t601JH2\ KM3KR4LW5L`6Me6Mi8LdAL`CKWEKSIIPLHNOGLRFJVEGYDE`CC\ cBAQsieQnUOcIMU6KKJZLWlLhzLgsPglTgeXgZ`gSd`W`VZXPb\ TIePCiL6lH0oEUWLwDRkEP_ENOFLCFJ1FICUTMhcWvmRmhNddI\ X_EOW9FR57NeEa_IYVLVPOSKROEUL9XI7YW5Yh4YuFRrPKoZDl\ h6jj9fkBcmD`nGYpIVqKSpHUoFTnCTmAUl7Ul5UfJQaWMXhIRi\ KMjMHjNCkP7lR2lS6bW9UZCLaFCdI3gDKY8_O4oE6pL8pRAqXC\ qbErhGrnIstKszPkuUdpYXkbQffIakBXo4TeCWXJYNQ`EXbCS`\ AO_8JZ7FY5AX36W22V97SFBQLFORKMXOKbSIfYGibElgColArq\ 8uhcslArbDpTGoJJn9MpFKrLItQHqSFoUDlWBjYAg_8ea6cb5a\ f8`jB_nDZrGYvJXyLWvLVsLUpLTmLSjLRgLQdLPaLTpsEZX0IA\ 6LBCNBIQBOSBUVB_XBdZBSbLFeV2hc6daAa_EYYIVWMRUQOSUK\ QYHPDrgGnaIkXHTdHTeOUUVVI } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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FOTD 21-04-06 (FOTD for 21-04-06 [No Rating])
by Jim Muth 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

FOTD -- April 21, 2006 (No Rating) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's scraggly fractal took one minute less than one-third hour to calculate on my tired old machine. When I tested it on my 2300mhz fireball machine, it finished in under 7 minutes. With this slowness to contend with, it goes without saying that the best way to see the image is to download it from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> The image was created by adding Z^3 to 2Z to produce an M-set standing on its nose, with a string of midgets extending outward from its East Valley, up along the positive Y-axis, which is now on the north side of the main bay. Today's scene is located in an inconspicuous valley of one of those midgets. Not wanting to humiliate myself, I gave the end result neither name nor rating. It is the type of image we have seen hundreds of times before. Luckily, the time of the big move from Old Fractal Central is drawing near, and once we are settled into New Fractal Central, the fractal quality will improve notably. What else can be said about a day in April with blue skies, gentle breezes and a temperature of 84F 29C, other than 'perfect'. This is what the fractal cats said as they spent half the morning and the entire afternoon sleeping in the cool shady comfort of the holly patch. While the cats slept however, I worked. At the end of the day enough work had been accomplished that I had time to find today's scraggly fractal. And if all goes as expected, the next fractal, hopefully not another scraggly one, will appear in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and do as you will. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= FOTD_for_21-04-06 { ; time=0:39:47.77--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident center-mag=-0.00041687877465757/+0.595491970612443\ 40/2.372153e+011/1/82.5/-0.00083 params=2/1/1/3/0/0 float=y maxiter=15000 inside=0 periodicity=10 colors=000`7JZ6GX5DV4B`RDelElZDsLDjUBaaATj9Kr8Bz7F\ vDJsIMpNQmTTjYXgb_dgThiNkkHomBro5upAvhEv`IvTMvLh5F\ kR8mk2hl2cm2Zn1Uo1Pp1Kp1Ir8HtFGuMFwTEy_DzeBug9qi8l\ k6hl5cn3_p2Wq6Zo9`mDbkGdiJfgNheQjcUla8nR7mS6lT5lU4\ kV3jW3jW7kZAkaDldGlgJljVSOe71cA1aD1_F1YI1WL1UN1SQ1\ QT1OV1MY1K`1Ib1Ge1Eg1Dc7D_CDWIDSNDPSENTFMUGLUHKVHJ\ WIIWJHXKGYLFYLEZMD_NC_OB`OA`PCZPDXPEVPFTPGSPHQQJOQ\ KMQLLQMJQNHQOFQPEUOCYNAaM9dM7hL6lK4oK3pQCpWLqdTqna\ rrirurrxzquvqqsqkoqdlpYhpTepNapIZpDWcUKRj9PeCN`FMX\ HKSKJONHJPGFSEAVD6XE5TF4QG3MG3JH2GI1CJ09J06G8BEFFB\ NK9UO7`T4hX2oa0ve3uc5ua8u_AuYDtWFtUItSKtQMsOPsMRsK\ UsIWrGZrE`rCbrBUtKMuSDw_5xg9tcDp`GmYKiVOeRRbOVZLZV\ IaSEeOBiK8lH5fK8aMAXOCSQENSGIUIDWK8YM9XKAWIBVGCVED\ UCETAFT8GS6HR4HR3KYGMdTPkeRqqBERCDSDCTEBUFAVG9WH8X\ I7YJ6ZI5`H4bG4dG3fF3gE2iE1kD1mC0oC0pL4nU8lbBkkFitI\ hqGeoFbmE_kDXiCUgBSd9Pb8M } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Evolver params
by Guy Marson 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

Hi Fractinters, Is there any option in Fractint (i.e. ctrl+g) to retrieve and save the params of the Evolver fields into a .par file? Such an option would be a big help for a better review of each field as large .gif or even with a text editor. In the Evolver itself, I did not found such an option.. Cheers, Guy

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FOTD 20-04-06 (FOTD for 20-04-06 [7])
by Jim Muth 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

FOTD -- April 20, 2006 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Quite an un-impressive fractal results when Z is mixed with Z^3 and C is added. The little M-set standing on its spike inspires little urge to investigate further. And why bother? Its inner details are little more than the stuff we are all familiar with in the classic M-set. But its East Valley, which now lies on the north side of the main bay, is a different story. The valley has split asunder, and beyond the split lies a brand new bay. Today's scene is located on the shoreline of this new bay, quite near the point where it joins the main bay of the M-set. Today's image shows the environs of a tiny midget buried at the limit of resolution. The scene lies so deep in fact that the 'mathtolerance' entry was necessary to be sure the image renders at the correct magnitude. Most of the image consists of 'inside' stuff made visible by the 'bof60' inside fill, which makes its coloring unusually smooth. I gave the picture no name, though I did give it a rating of 7. The calculation time of 7 minutes may be avoided by downloading the pre-rendered GIF image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> BTW, as soon as F.L. and I are settled into the New Fractal Central, I will take advantage of Paul's offer to upgrade the 10-year-old present FOTD web site. Perfect weather and perfect cats, that's how it was here at Old Fractal Central on Wednesday. For me, the day was far too busy to be perfect. The next FOTD is unlikely to be perfect either, but unless something goes drastically wrong, it will appear on schedule in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and where does the individual person stop and the outer world begin? Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= FOTD_for_20-04-06 { ; time=0:07:04.23--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident float=y center-mag=+0.00683994188501626/+0.007202924078708\ 30/4.132172e+012 params=1/1/1/3/0/0 maxiter=3000 inside=bof60 periodicity=10 mathtolerance=0.05/1 colors=000JRUKSVLTWMUXNVYOWZPX_QY`RZaS_bT`cUadWbeY\ cf_dgaehcfifgjihklilojmrknulmtmksliqjgpiengdmfckda\ jb`i`_eZYbXW`UUZSRXRPVRNVQNXRNYTN_VO`YOb_Ob`NcbMcc\ MddLdfLegKehJfjJfkIflIUIjXMfZPbaSZcVVeYRhaNjdJlgFo\ jBqm7sp4pn8mmCjlGgkKdjOaiSciRdiQeiQfiPgiPhiOiiOjiN\ qiNwiMwiMsiLoiLqiKriKsiJtiJuiIviIteGsbEr_CqXAoT8nQ\ 6mN4lK3jH4iE4hC4f94e64d44_37V3AQ2DL2GG2JB1M61P11R5\ 3S94TD6UH7VL9WPAXTBXXDY`EZdG_hH`lJapKbtLbsPgrSkqVo\ pYslXmiXgfWbcWX`WRYVMVVGSVBTUCTTCTTDTSDURDUREUQEUQ\ EVPFVOFVOGVNGWMGWMHWLHWLHXKIXJIXJJXIJYHJYHKYGKYGKZ\ GL_GL`GMaGMbGNcGNdGNeGOfGOgGPhGPiGQjGQkGQlGRmGRnGS\ oGSpGTqGTqGToMVnRXmWYla_kfajkbhmefogepicrlbsn`up_v\ sYxuXywapnehfi_YmSQqJHuB9y31w45v48u4Cs4Fr4Jq4Mp4Pn\ 6Rl7Sk8Ui9VhAXfBYdC_cD`aEb`FcZGeXHfWIhUJiTKkRLlQMm\ RLjSKhSJeTIcUHaUGZVFXVEVYJ``OecTkfXphTnjQmlNlnKkoG\ iqDhCKNDLOEMPFNQGORHPSIQT } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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FOTD 19-04-06 (FOTD for 19-04-06 [7])
by Jim Muth 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

FOTD -- April 19, 2006 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's image is a scene in the fractal that results when Z^(2.3) is subtracted from Z^(1.7) then C is added. It was given extra impact by the dark goth-like color palette and the 'outside=tdis' rendering option. The parent fractal appears as a distorted Mandelbrot set, rotated 180 degrees, so that the large period-2 bud is on the east side of the main bay. This large bud has two prominent secondary buds, with equally prominent filaments extending from each of the buds. Today's small midget is located in the vicinity of a larger midget on the north filament. I gave the image a rating of a 7, though I did not make the effort to find a name. The render time of under 4 minutes is brief enough for all but the most impatient fractalists. For those few, and for those with over-qualified computers, the pre- rendered image has been posted on the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Ideal spring weather here at Old Fractal Central on Tuesday made the cats' day ideal. They passed most of the afternoon alterna- ting between their porch chairs and the holly thicket. My day was quite busy, as the next month or two will be. The next FOTD will appear within 24 hours, + or - an hour or so. Until then, take care, and why is the fractalist leaving Baltimore? Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= FOTD_for_19-04-06 { ; time=0:03:41.52--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident center-mag=+2.38267070341709300/+0.317151677958170\ 60/3.013582e+009/1/-52.5/0.00997746117744968686 params=1/1.7/-1/2.3/0/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000LIMECE7675wQ8O26J14E1390140a_7VU5PO4JI3C\ C2661m0aX0PG0C48h25U12FSK3EA1rzzikidfdY_YSTRLMK998\ oJAfF8YC6S95K63731zClqAdh8Y_6RR5JI3C916Vp3Qh2M`2HU\ 1DM18F0470mo7hh6cb5ZW4UQ3PJ2KD1F60rQ0cK0OF0GA0850N\ 97F6473222Q11L11H11D008004l4lO2OZCuS9iL7YE4N72BgZZ\ aUUXQQRLLMHHGDDB88544jBGN58xnpmegcYZUPQKHHA8806U04\ M03F01751edR6UK4KD3A61WnUGPF8EWuD0f90T60E30VxOfWpa\ QqWKrREsM9tUulM4EUxHQqGNkGJdFGZFCSE9ME6E90QR374A_T\ 8UO7PK5KG4FC2A8154eOTSGJE897aq3JRodhYRUHDFPe7GS48E\ 2cPEZLCUIAPF8KC7F95A63531fhkWX_LMOABCYm5Te4OZ3JS2E\ L29E1470_u4Si3LY2EN17B0mlceeYZZSSSMLLHEEB7755OC4KA\ 3H82D62A5163031sVA`K6IA3ESJCOGAKD8GA6C8485242GV_CO\ S9IL6CE367dYpWReOKVGDL86A4JH298Wjw3s82i62`51S41I20\ 91Qs3DS1WVaLKPAACURXKIMA9BUNvzzPSzzzzFEzzzz5zzzzzH\ WzzzzWFzzjzvbzzzzbNzzzzJ7zzEz9zz7Az6zz56z3zz22z1zz\ C3zizza2zUzzN1zFzz7Zz`000 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Seeking a vid adapter mode
by Tony Hanmer 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

(Resending this as it seems not to have gone out to the Fractint list.) I'm running Fractint on a borrowed computer for a few months, and all I can get is 480x640 pixels of screen. Anyone out there have the video adapter mode for an NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 card, resolution 768x1024 or higher, to insert into Fractint.cfg? Thanks, Anthony Hanmer

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Re: [Fractint] Seeking a vid adapter mode
by nick.grasso＠nasrecruitment.com 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

David Fisher wrote: >>>Been doing some reasearch, and asking questions to anyone who will listen, and the following is very interesting. http://www.vmware.com/products/server. I think some of this stuff might be the answer to the problems with fractint in windows. The virtual machines( I am told) fully supports DOS under windows and reacts with the hardware installed, which should solve the video resolution problems. Hope this helps<<< I run fractint in Connectix Virtual PC under Windows XP, which is similar to VMWare. It works OK. I can get video modes up to 1280x1024 although I haven't yet been able to get 1600x1200. However, there are two big caveats: it is v-e-r-y slow, and Virtual PC is expensive. Note the following: Connectix sold Virtual PC to Microsoft in 2003. They upgraded it and the current version is called Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 (with the obligatory service packs of course). See: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx I see that they have just announced a new product called Virtual PC Express which is available in beta. I don't know how much it will cost, but other Microsoft 'Express' products are free. I'm thinking that they might include this as part of Vista, since Vista may not directly support DOS and 16 bit Windows apps. Also, they make all their money on the Virtual Server products, perhaps Virtual PC will be free. Nick

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