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Re: Fractint Digest, Vol 30, Issue 6
by harrybissell 20 Aug '05

20 Aug '05

> > From: Margaret Willmer <margaret(a)duomus.org.uk> > Subject: [Fractint] Making an avi from Fractint > > Hello > > I played with Fractint on my old DOS PCs and remembered the colour > cycling mode. I even have a boot "Fractal Creations" from 1993!! > > I have now installed the programme on my windows PC and have it all > working fine except that I would like it not to take up the whole > screen. I've looked all through the file list and cannot see a .bat or > anything else where I might change the setting. > > I am interested in making an .avi file, thence a dv film, from the > colour cycling to use as an effect in a play. Does anyone know if this > can be done. I have tried the windows version of fractint but the > colour scrolling doesn't work. I am aware that Fractal Explorer has an > .avi making mode and will use this if I have to but it is the colour > cycling that I really wanted. > > Can anyone help, I would be most grateful > > Margaret > > -- > Margaret Willmer > London > NW6 1HZ > <delurk> Can't help you directly but can offer moral support. I used the composite video output from my video card to drive a VCR to make animated fractint movies. I modified some fractals as .gif files, replaced them into Fractint... so I could have text added and do color cycling. If you make the text in the .gif transparent color... it will NOT cycle with the other colors so you get a layered effect. You can also add other .gif images like photos etc and make them color cycle. Downside was that 640x480 is about the highest resolution that a TV set can reproduce. Higher rezzes just look blurry. Imagine... they make computer video projectors now. :^P How cool would THAT be (as everyone who lives in the 21st century goes ... 'yawn'....) H^) harry <resume lurk>

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FOTD 20-08-05 (Flanges [5])
by Jim Muth 20 Aug '05

20 Aug '05

FOTD -- August 20, 2005 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: When I opened my e-mailbox this morning, I found 11 meaningless letters with 11 copies of the same 79k-byte 'zip' file attached. (One 'zip' file attached to each letter!) It must be some new virus that has just started circulating. We'll see how fast the Earthlink virus filter, which is pretty efficient, starts recog- nizing and deleting it. No deep meaning lies hidden in today's image. It is simply one of the infinite things that numbers do when reiterated. The generating formula is a play on the negative square root of 2, which creates another of those parent fractals that defy exact description. Basically, the parent fractal is a Mandeloid with X-axis symmetry, orientated with the main stem facing east. The large main bay contains two crescent shaped islands, and a circular ring lies at the tip of the main stem. Today's scene is located on the north shoreline of the large bay. To add a bit of interest, I rendered the scene with the outside set to 'real', which colors the pixels according to the value of the real part of the point of escape. The effect is one we have seen several times in recent FOTD's, which is why I rated the image at an altogether average 5. The name "Flanges" came to mind for some reason as I was contem- plating the image in search of a suitable name. Looking at the image today, I see no justification for such a name. A flange is part of a railway wheel, and today's image lies nowhere near the fractal railyard. The render time of 13 minutes is a bit slow for a merely average image. But much time may be saved by visiting the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> and downloading the finished GIF image from there. Occasional rain fell through the morning and into the early afternoon Friday here at Fractal Central. The temperature of 75F 24C was quite comfortable, but the fractal cats would rather have been outside. They turned grumpy early and stayed grumpy all day. An extra large treat of tuna in the evening brought them back to a bearable mood. Today is starting cloudy and very muggy. It might turn out too warm for the aging duo. We'll see how the day goes. For me the day will be busy but under control. And the next FOTD will appear in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and don't be one of them. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Flanges { ; time=0:13:04.99--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+4.551130184773475/+2.515387973760837/7\ 423992/1/15/-2.064168181666e-006 params=2.5/-1.414\ 2/-0.03/-4.1421/0/275 float=y maxiter=2500 inside=0 outside=real logmap=181 periodicity=10 colors=000l0Yv0az1dz2gz4fy6dq8bi9aaBaTD_LFYDGW4BT6\ GW6KY6N_6Qa8Tb8Wd8ag8di9gk9kl9nnBvt9qo8nk8jf6fa4bW\ 4YR2TN2QI1LD0I80D20900601B04G08L0BQ0FV0I_0Ld0Pi0Qk\ 0Rn0Ro0Rr1Rt4Tx9TyFTzKTzNVzRVzWVzaRzaVzdWzfYzg_yib\ rkdnlfingdoi_qnbgrf_vqaxiRyaIzT8zF0zL0yQ6tWFqaNnfV\ ilbfqkYzqbvrfqtilvlgxqbytYzxTzzPzzKzzFzz9zz4zz1zvP\ k_iLIz0Fz0Bz48zF4yP1xY0vg0tq6voGxnRylazklzivzgzzfz\ zdzy_ztWxnTqiQkbNfYKaTGZNDUI9GB6962410941D81GB1LF1\ PI1RK2VN2_Q2bT2fW2iV0iY2ia8idDifIiiNilRioWiq_itdix\ iiznizrizxizzizzkzzizzgzzfzyfztdznbziaydaxY_tTYrNW\ oIWnDQofKqzPlzTizYfzbazgYzlVznbzniznoznvynzxnzvnzt\ izrfzqbzo_znWxlTtkQqiNngKkfGgdDdb9aaBY_DWYFVWGRVIQ\ TKPRLLQNKQPIPQFNRDLTBKV8IW6GY4F_2Flb0ad0QdBFdPV000\ Q40VG0_Q0zlWz0Nt2DlKzBydQlzY4aaL0z00y90qIzzarz_Tq_\ Gf0Bd68dLPWFFaQg01PGKK0vF8n9PfWlzPixIgoBfg8R06Y9l0\ zQKx0900000100FBK0NT0Qb0T } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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FOTD 19-08-05 (Bubbling Fantasia [8])
by Jim Muth 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

FOTD -- August 19, 2005 (Rating 8) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The FOTD hiatus has served not only to eliminate the work back-up, but it also has given me a chance to recharge my phil- osophical batteries, which have been flat for several months. The resulting discussion about the nature of the 'self', which is just a bit inspired, appears in the philofractal version of today's discussion. Today's image lies well-hidden in the fractal that results when 0.75 negative parts of both Z^(-1.1) and Z^(-5.5) are combined and (1/C) is added. The parent fractal consists of a shapeless central ocean filled with small islands, with tiny isolated Man- delbrot sets scattered some distance inland. The most prominent of these M-sets lies some distance west of the central ocean. Today's scene is located in one of several chains of filaments extending from the East Valley of this prominent smaller M-set. I half-evaporated the image by setting the escape radius to a relatively large value of 3100. Interest was then added by rendering the scene with the inside set to 'bof61' and the outside set to 'tdis'. I named the result "Bubbling Fantasia". Such a name sounds intriguing but has little connection to the appearance of the image. The colors are a bit too brilliant, making the rating of an 8 perhaps a bit excessive. The image is still a pleasing one to view however, so the much-above-average rating will remain. The render time of 9-1/2 minutes is within reason for an image that rates an 8. Those who do not render may download the com- pleted GIF image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> The philosophical discussion is included at this point in the philofractal version of today's FOTD. A near perfect day here at Fractal Central on Thursday, with warm sun, low humidity, and a high temperature of 86F 30C, left the fractal cats in one of their best moods ever. No tuna was needed in the evening to keep them happy, but I gave them a small treat anyway. This morning is starting mild, but with light showers. Could the day turn out bad? With the work once again under control, I expect my day to be uneventful. But one can never be sure with two cats and unpre- dictable customers to contend with. The next FOTD will appear in 24 short hours, or 24 long hours, depending on your sense of time. Until then, take care, and as you watch yourself move through life, keep wondering who or what is doing the watching and who or what is being watched. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Bubbling_Fantasia { ; time=0:09:37.37--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-1.82869168737630700/-0.247178934218572\ 90/3.123788e+011/1/30/0.0221353129476179328 params=-0.75/-1.1/-0.75/-5.5/0/3000 maxiter=1400 float=y inside=bof61 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000z1Mz0Gz0Az06z43zD0zN0zX0zd0ti0nn9fpH`vQT\ z_NzgGzpAzz4zzExtNifYVTfGGdHEdJEcKEcMDcNDaPDaQD`QC\ `QC`QC_QC_QAYQAYSAYSA_TG_VK_VQ_YV_``_ada_cdXcgSakP\ anKapG`tC`w9`z4_z0_z0_z4avAdpGflMigSlcYn_cpVirX`oY\ Sl_Ki_Cf`4ca0`a0Yc0Vd0Tf0Sg0Qi0Pk0Nl0Mn0Kn0JKNd0iz\ 0cv0_p4Vl9PfCKaGGYKASP6NT1JX0EX6JXDMXKPXSSX_XXf_Xn\ aXvdXzg`zkczlpv3iz0cz0`v0Yo1Vg6TaAQVENPJKHNJCSG4XD\ 0`C0cA0X90Q90K70E71964M46Y49k3Aw3Cz6Hz9NzCTzEYwHct\ KipNonPtlSvnTwnVxnXznYzn_znczngznnzorzowzoxzozzozz\ ozzozzoxznvzlrzlozklziizifzgcwgavf`td_pdYocXncSl_P\ kVMkQJiMGiHDgEAgA7f64f11d00d04c0Aa0E`0K`0Q_0VY0`Y0\ fX0kV0pT0wT0zS1zQ1zQ1zT6xV9rXClYEd`H_aKTcNNdQMcSKa\ TK`VJ`VJ_XHYYHYYYcTngPzlKngX_cgK_t7VzCSzEQzHPzMNxP\ MwSJvXHt_GraEpfDoiAnl9lp7kt6iw4irAlnGniKofQpaVrY`t\ VfvQkwMpxJvz_xfozNnzSnzXnz`nzclzglzllzplztkzxkzzkz\ zkzznwzpnwtfpwYkxQdzHYz9S } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Re: [Fractint] Making an avi from Fractint
by Margaret Willmer 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

Paul N. Lee wrote: > Margaret Willmer wrote: > >>I have now installed the programme on >>my windows PC and have it all working >>fine except that I would like it not >>to take up the whole screen. I've >>looked all through the file list and >>cannot see a .bat or anything else >>where I might change the setting. > > > FractInt is a very old DOS program, and was only designed to have the > "display window" for it's images to be at full-screen. You could try > right-clicking the actual executable module to modify the Properties, > but I believe it would only cause the program to give a warning message > about it not being able to run in anything but a "Normal Window", as > opposed to a "Minimized" way. > > The only other option is to use the "Disk-Video" modes to write directly > to disk and not even use a video adapter at all. (See the documentation > that is generated when running FRACTINT.EXE -DOC from the command line. > The basic info may be found somewhere around page 157, section 6.2.) > > >>I am interested in making an .avi file, >>thence a dv film, from the colour cycling >>to use as an effect in a play. Does >>anyone know if this can be done. I have >>tried the windows version of fractint but >>the colour scrolling doesn't work. I am >>aware that Fractal Explorer has an .avi >>making mode and will use this if I have >>to but it is the colour cycling that I >>really wanted. > > > First off, the Windows version does work when you use the latest copy of > WinFract, which may be found at this location: > http://www.Nahee.com/Software/ > > > Sincerely, > P.N.L. > ------------------------------------------------- > http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html > http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/ > Thank you for this information, I now have the latest version and colour-cycling. I now have to fathom a way of saving that to .avi but I'll have a go and if I suceed I'll post a solution. Many thanks Margaret -- London NW6 1HZ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 17/08/2005

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Next FOTD to appear in 3 days
by Jim Muth 16 Aug '05

16 Aug '05

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Good news! The work backlog is shrinking, and the next FOTD, titled "Bubbling Fantasia", should appear in 3 days on Friday, August 19. Until then, be of good cheer. Jim M.

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Making an avi from Fractint
by Margaret Willmer 16 Aug '05

16 Aug '05

Hello I played with Fractint on my old DOS PCs and remembered the colour cycling mode. I even have a boot "Fractal Creations" from 1993!! I have now installed the programme on my windows PC and have it all working fine except that I would like it not to take up the whole screen. I've looked all through the file list and cannot see a .bat or anything else where I might change the setting. I am interested in making an .avi file, thence a dv film, from the colour cycling to use as an effect in a play. Does anyone know if this can be done. I have tried the windows version of fractint but the colour scrolling doesn't work. I am aware that Fractal Explorer has an .avi making mode and will use this if I have to but it is the colour cycling that I really wanted. Can anyone help, I would be most grateful Margaret -- Margaret Willmer London NW6 1HZ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005

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Re: [Fractint] Re: Web Host
by Russell Walsmith 15 Aug '05

15 Aug '05

----- Original Message ----- From: JackOfTradeZ <JackOfTradeZ(a)comcast.net> To: fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Fractint] Re: Web Host Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:03:47 -0600 > > ""To oversimplify the situation, classroom Earth is pass/fail: if you die, > you repeat the course. To ascend is to demonstrate a mastery of the material > realm that makes reincarnation an option, rather than an obligation. Of > course this idea may be pure nonsense... but since we all know what we've > got coming according to the conventional belief system, what have we to lose > by contemplating that this alternative, a fundamental premise of many > ancient mystical traditions, may be true?"" > > Sounds like Hindu or something to me - like, if you fail try and come back > and try again until you get it right. Then ascend to the next level of > existence. Sounds way cool to me! Actually this info is at the core of all religions in my opinion, just buried under the extraneous stuff so deeply it is difficult to discern. That's why I like the modern versions of this information, which typically is "channeled"; i.e., downloaded from the Cosmic Consciousness. E.g., http://www.askanditisgiven.com/contents/chapter-16/index.php > > You looking for a web host Russ (or NY1 else)? Check out: > > 1and1.com > > They are advertising in all the computer 'zines. It is my host for > "fractal-animation.net" and they are really cool. Like $29 for 6 months and > you get EVERYTHING. Check it out. Good suggestion: I've gotten a URL and I'll set up the site soon... Thanks. Meanwhile, there has been a lot of interest in the 'triternion' fractals around here (Ojai, CA). We've put them on the big screen at the local theater, and last night they were projected, to dramatic effect, on a big rock promontory at the 'Art in the Canyon' festival. We've also included your 'Muthzoom13.wmv' viddie in the program at these events, and the response has been enthusiastic. Can you go a few light years deeper? We'll have to hook up off-list to discuss this in more depth. Ciao, Russell > JoTz > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Re: Clones and Viddies and Sex (that to get your attention <g>)
by JackOfTradeZ 15 Aug '05

15 Aug '05

Russ W. said: ""We've put them on the big screen at the local theater, and last night they were projected, to dramatic effect, on a big rock promontory at the 'Art in the Canyon' festival. We've also included your 'Muthzoom13.wmv' viddie in the program at these events, and the response has been enthusiastic. Can you go a few light years deeper? We'll have to hook up off-list to discuss this in more depth."" Why Muthzoom viddie? It's cool but not at all the best thing there. Been to my site lately? Try Chrysalis, Tesselations, Cathedral of Chaos, Crown of Creation, Eye of Hell, Psychotomimetic. Not to mention YOUR formula viddies on the extension page (link at the top). Those should go over well with any tripped out California crowd. A few lite-years deeper? Muthzoom is only E+19. Check out the Universe viddies. How does E+89 grab ya!? And #5 goes to E+38, I think it is the best one. Now clones. A few humble thoughts. The greatest danger with a cloned population is the lack of genetic diversity, which in turn creates an exceptional sensitivity to adverse environmental stimuli, such as chemical toxin, pollution, disease vectors, and predators. An entire system can be wiped out, whereas a natural "wild" population will always have enough diversity to adapt, evolve and survive. Farm animals and plants are not strictly clones, but have low genetic diversity thru selective breeding and development over centuries. See how easy and often it happens that these populations are devastated by hostile microorganisms, environmental toxins, insects, etc. A significantly large cloned human population is highly unlikely even after the technology is perfected. Why do it? I think people would just want to clone relatives that met an untimely demise. No it wouldn't be the same exact person, but close ... And why are there moral objections to cloning, which if nothing else is the creation of life, and yet abortion, which is the unjust taking of life, is ok - even a sacred constitutional right? go figure. Are FRACTALS clones? Do they not clone themselves inside out as you zoom in or around? Self-Similarity ... Stay Amazed JoTz

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FOTD 12-08-05 (Beside the Point [6])
by Jim Muth 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

FOTD -- August 12, 2005 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Bad news. Try to not be too disappointed, but this will be the last FOTD until I get the work backlog caught up. Today's somewhat over-colored image was generated by subtracting 0.8 part of Z^(1.5) from 0.8 part of Z^(-1.5), then adding (1/C). The parent fractal consists of a large distorted Mandeloid surrounded by an even larger area of chaos, with tiny Mandelbrot sets scattered through the chaos. Today's image lies in the chaos near but not inside the East Valley area of the large Mandeloid. The appearance of the scene, with its fish-net of filaments, is typical of fractals generated by negative powers of Z. I was ready to name the image "Fish-net", but then I decided that the fish-net effect was not obvious enough, and after a brief indecision, named it "Beside the Point", a name that has absolutely nothing to do with the appearance of the image. The rating of a 6 is held down by the coloring, which in my opinion is a bit too intense. The render time of 3-1/5 minutes however is well within reason, and may be eliminated entirely by downloading the already-rendered image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> A sunny, hot and humid day on Thursday was interrupted by a brief heavy shower in mid-afternoon. The cats could take the temperature of 90F 32C, but when the big raindrops started splashing on the ground, they dashed for the cover of the porch and asked to come in. They were surprisingly happy for the rest of the day. Today is starting sunny and a bit warmer. It might be too hot a day for the cats. Unfortunately, the work backlog has reached the point where it must be brought under control, which means I will be unable to post a FOTD for several days. I will still be reading the list however. The next FOTD will appear in 5 days or so, sometime around the middle of next week. Until then, take care, and seek the ultimate fractal which is the source of all else. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Beside_the_Point { ; time=0:03:12.40--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-2.23533141420156200/-1.432228950187527\ 00/11804.84/1/-82.5/-2.45500147988408912e-012 params=-0.8/1.5/0.8/-1.5/0/0 float=y maxiter=450 inside=0 logmap=48 periodicity=10 colors=0000M90OB0QD0SF0UH0WI7Y70_07aIHa_V_ojVuvDzz\ 7zz0zz3zzDzzMzzXgz_QzYkzOzzKzzImzDYz9IzSYzimzzzzzz\ zzzoz5ivBasHXqMOmSIiYBec5cg9YcBVaFQYHMXIHVMDQO9OQ5\ MaHVmKaoViQKQ730HB0QIHYQYgYqqezykzqmzimyaokXoYOoIH\ q59q03q0Dy0Mz0Xz0ez0Xy0Mg0DS03B500D00K0970c00_0BY1\ MV5_S7kOBvMDzKFzQKzXOzaSzYXkXYSS_9Qa0OcMMIqM0iDDc3\ OY0_S0kk0zi0zg0ze0zc0za0z_0zY0yX0vV0uS0sQ0qO0mM0kK\ 0iK0gI0eH0cF1_D3YB5X0KH97V77S59Q3BM1DK0FI0HH0IFezs\ azo_zmXziVygQueOqaKm_IkYFgVDcS9_O7XM3SK1OH0KFIHXzO\ ziMsKKYgszI_cccXzH0zI0yI0uI0sI0oI0mI0iI0gI0cI0aI0Y\ I0XI0SI0QI0MI0KI1HI3FI3BI59I75I93I90IB0IDzzFyzDuzD\ qzDmzDizDezDazDYzDVzDSzDOzDKzDHzDDzD9zD5zD1zD0zDKz\ 0Iz0Hz0Fz0Fz0Dz1Bz19z39z37z55z55z73z71z90z90zB0zB0\ zDzzquzmqzkkzggzeazaYz_SzXOzVIzQFzO9zK5zI0zF0z00z0\ 0z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z\ 00z00z10z10z30z30z50z70z7 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Re: FOTD 10-08-05 (Venetian Blinds [8])
by Jim Muth 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

At 12:01 AM 8/11/05 -1000, David wrote: >Until men have created life from non-living matter, you can't say that >they've "created life" by cloning another living thing. They simply >reproduced an existing living thing using a more high-tech way of >triggering growth and providing nourishment than nature uses. > >Still, we've added Jim to our top-secret "clone this person" list so >that he'll have more time to make fractals! ;-) But if it's top-secret, how will I know that I've been cloned? Will I suddenly find myself in two places at once? If I don't experience being inside my clone, then the clone will not really be me. And if it's not really me, how can you be sure the clone will be obsessed with fractals like I am. What if my 'clone' hates math and fractals? What a waste of effort! Jim (not yet a clone) M.

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