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Re: [Fractint] Re:just a reply. . . .
by padski＠padski.com 28 Mar '05

28 Mar '05

Luckily the England I live in has more to it than Earls Court wine bars. But yes, the fractals - I get the worst fractal relatively often, thanks to a graphics driver incompatibility on my laptop; a 2 or 3 colour straight-edged mess. Paddy Drunkeness, perversion, bigotry :) ----- Original Message ----- From: david To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:39:29 -1000 Subject: [Fractint] Re:just a reply. . . . And I have a co-worker who would tell you that "thinking for oneself is still highly-regarded" in England AS LONG AS YOUR THINKING IS THAT NOXIOUS FORM OF NON-THINKING CALLED "Politically correct" ... ;-) He refuses to go back to England for that reason. (But he's really an Aussie at heart!) Hmm, to get a bit more on topic here, we've had fractal art contests seeking the best fractals, and we have Jim's FOTD demonstrating good or great fractals every day ... how about a contest for the WORST fractal? How would you define "worst" in the first place? -- David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community padski(a)padski.com wrote: > Do not despair Jim, there will always be a welcome here in England for people like you, where > thinking for oneself is still highly regarded, despite the best efforts of our poodle Blair. > Paddy Duncan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Muth > To: fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > Sent: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:38:50 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fractint] just a reply. . . . > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 at 16:35:15 David Lowenstein wrote: > > >>So Look who's talking, Muth? > > > I am fimiliar with the article found at: > > http://cryptome.org/fda102099.htm > > And I'm not talking. I'm now shaking my head in sympathy. > > >>No one talks on a cell phone for 22 hours straight! > > > This is unlikely, but what about those who live and work near > cellular antennas? They are exposed to the RF radiation 24 > hours a day. And there is a school near where I live that has > an array of cellular antennas on its roof, only 15 feet above > the students in the classroom below. > > >>According to the FDA, there is no evidence saying cell phones >>cause cancer. > > > The article also gives no assurance that cell phones are safe, > and recommends certain safety precautions such as keeping > antennas away from the head and holding mobile phone use to a > minimum. As for the results of experiments on test animals > being applied to human beings, we do this all the time. This is > why questionable substances are tested on animals instead of > people. > > I have nothing against mobile telephones, which are indisputably > very convenient. The object of my screed was the blatant media > manipulation that we almost seem to enjoy. I mentioned the > radiation from cell phones because it *might* be harmful, and no > one appears concerned because the media, not wanting to place > their advertising revenues in jeopardy, basically ignores the > risk. Also, because of the extensive advertising by the mobile > phone industry, these phones are becoming entertainment devices > and status symbols, especially among children, who often use > them as toys. > > I also doubt that the telephone companies, with their bottom > lines at stake, are the best choice to investigate the possible > dangers. How many years did the tobacco companies assure us > that cigarettes are safe to smoke? > > Cell telephones are not going away, but their safety is in > question, and they therefore should bear a warning such as that > now found on cigarette packages. . . before it is too late. > > Finally, are you associated with a mobile phone company? :-) > > Now back to the fractals . . . > > > Jim M. _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Re: [Fractint] from M. Buckley, Dublin, Happy Easter
by RENRAD1＠aol.com 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Happy Easter to the Fractint/Philofractint listers! :) Cheers! renrad1 my goodness, that's an enormous(!) beech, thanks for sharing the picture :)

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FOTD 27-03-05 (Squishy [5])
by Jim Muth 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

FOTD -- March 27, 2005 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It's Easter. I see a busy day looming, so I must be terse. With today's image we return to the MandelbrotMix4 formula to examine the fractal that results when various portions of Z^(-1.9) and Z^(-6.5) are combined and (1/C) is added. After only a small bit of examination, we discover today's scene, which was rendered with the outside set to 'tdis'. The resulting image reminds me of splotches of oil spreading over a metallic surface. I named it "Squishy" and rated it at a 5. The included parameter file renders in under one minute, about the same time it will take to download the completed image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> A chilly cloudy day on Saturday limited the duo's outdoor time to under two hours. The two hours must have been enough however, for when they came inside, they seemed satisfied, and asked for no extra tuna. Today is starting cloudy and chilly again. I expect more of the same. For me, it looks like a trip to some in-laws for an Easter dinner. I don't enjoy these things but sometimes one must do it to keep everyone happy. Until next FOTD, take care, and don't eat too many eggs. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Squishy { ; time=0:00:59.21--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.12709385811560630/-1.926401018584589\ 00/835.0523/1/-12.5/4.0333292261607312e-012 params=-0.7/-1.9/-0.4/-6.5/0/525 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000gc5ca4`_4XY3UW3QU2NS2JQ1CK1CI09K0BM4CO8E\ QCFSFGUJIWNJYRK_UMaYNcaOddQ`fRYgSVhTSjUOkVLlWInXFo\ YBpZ8r_5s`2tb7qcBndGkeKhfOegTbhX_i`XjeUkiRlmOmrLnv\ IozGnwHntInrImoJmmJmjKmgLleLlbMl`MlYNkVOkTOkQPkOPm\ `JnmDoz8jtDfnHbiMYcQUZUQTZLNbHIgDCk97oCCpFGpIKpKPp\ NTpQXpTaqVeqYiq`nqcrqevqgpjhkcieYk`RlVLmQEnL8mJAmI\ ClHElGGlFIkEKkDMjBOjAQj9Si8Ui7Wh6Yh5_h4`bCVYKPSSJN\ _DIg8NcBR`DWXG_UIcRKhNNlKPpHRoIUoIWnJYnJ_mKamKclLe\ lLgkMikMkjNmjNojNqZJpNGpBDp0ApWIUzP8nV9b`ASfBGlC5r\ DCsCJtCQuCWvCbwCixCpyCvzCtxEsvGqtIprKopMmnOlmPkkRi\ iThgVgeXecZda`c`aeY`fW_gTZhRYiOXjMWkJVlHUmETnCSo9R\ p7Qq9RqBRqCSqESqGSqHTqJTqKTrMUrOUrPVrRVrTVrUWrWWrX\ Ws_UtbSudQugPviNwlLxnJxqIysGzvEzxDyvHxtLwrPvpSunWu\ l_tjcshfrfjqdnqbqKs6Ot5Rt5Vt4Yt4at3dt3VbILLXB3kE5g\ H6dK7aM9ZPAWSBTVDQXEN_FKbHHeIEgJBJhKKeLKcLK`LKZMKW\ MKUMKRNKPNKNNQJSrj7ng6je5 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Re: fractopia, Bill
by JackOfTradeZ 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Hey Bill - those pics on your site are way cool! How you do that!? And where did you meet your girlfriend? Does she have any sisters? <g> JoTz

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from M. Buckley, Dublin, Happy Easter
by Maria Buckley 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

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FAC?
by gin.fonte＠comcast.net 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Hello, I have just downloaded DOS Fractint onto my Windows XP computer, but am unable to open any files. Do you have a most basic FAC that helps with these preliminary problems? Thanks, Gin

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oops
by gin.fonte＠comcast.net 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Ha ha. Sorry. FAQ!

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Re: Deep in the Valley
by JackOfTradeZ 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

Hey Jim - stop playing around with this e+06 and e+12 stuff. Go D.E.E.P. Try getting past e+13 if you can muster the patience. You may be surprised at what you find ... (I am going to post it all on my site when it's all done). As we say in SCUBA: "the deeper you go the better you feel ..." JoTz

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FOTD 26-03-05 (Deep Northeast [6])
by Jim Muth 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

FOTD -- March 26, 2005 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's listed render time of under 5 minutes is the time it takes for the image to calculate on my fastest machine, a P4-2300, which goes like lightning with the Mandel formula. On the old warhorse P200, the image takes almost 1 hour to finish. The image is another scene very deep in a valley, this time the valley of the period-4 bud on the northeast shoreline of the main bay. The 'mystic' point of this valley, where the two branches join at infinitesimal infinity, is 0.25,0.5. This valley, along with its mirror twin at -0.25,0.5, Seahorse Valley at -0.75, and Scepter Valley at -1.25, are the only valleys I know of with rational and therefore easy-to-find 'mystic points'. The limit of East Valley of the M-set lies at 0.25, and the limit of the East Valley of the largest midget is found at -1.75. But these 'east' valleys simply come to an end at these points. They have no opposite branches to join with. What we see so deep in today's valley is more of what we saw in Seahorse Valley -- lots of cut-off elements resembling sickle- shaped leaves with scalloped edges, and peanut-shaped holes surrounded by vast areas of chaos, which I call 'sand'. I could have brought some degree of order to these chaotic areas by rendering the image with the logmap in effect, but this would have reduced all but a tiny part of the image to areas of flat color. The coloring is more intense in today's image, but the image borders on a repeat, and this holds the rating to a 6. I named today's image "Deep Northeast". The name is a simple description of the scene's location. Depending on the computer, the render time could be anywhere from around 4 minutes to many hours. Regardless of the machine, the image may be seen nearly instantly by going to the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Light rain in the afternoon and a temperature of only 46F 8C spoiled the cats' day Friday. They consoled themselves watching the squirrels from their shelf by the window. Today is starting no better. I expect the cats' day will be no better either. I'll finish the little bit of work, then see what I can find deep in another valley of the M-set. Hopefully, all the valleys will not be the same. The next FOTD will appear in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and speak softly but carry a big fractal. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Deep_Northeast { ;time=0:04:51.83--SF6 on a P2300 reset=2004 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=+0.24976756104200800/+0.500233788215223\ 60/2.485769e+009/1/9.99999919079729516/4.150422441\ 52757922e-006 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=2500000 bailout=9 inside=0 periodicity=10 colors=000z4Dz4Dz4Dz4Dz4Dz4Dz4Dz2Dz2Dy2Dx2Dv2Dt2Dr\ 2Dq2Do1Dn1Dl1Dk1Di1Dg1Df1Dd1Db0Da0D_0DY0DW0DV0DT0D\ R0DQ0DP0DN0DL0DL0DK0DI0DG0DF0DD0DB0D90D80D60D40D20\ D10B20D40F40F60G60G80I80I90K90KB0LB0LD1ND1NF1PF2PG\ 2QG2QI2RI4RK4TK4TL4VL6VN6WN6WP8YP8YQ8_Q8_R9aR9aT9b\ T9bR9aR9aR9aR9aR9_R9_R9_R9_R9YR9YR9YR9YR9WR9WR9WR9\ WR9VR9VR9VR9VR9TR9TR9TR9TR9RR9RR9RR9RR9RQ9QQ9QQ9QQ\ 9QQ9PQ9PQ9PQ9PQ9NQ9NQ9NQ9NQ9LQ9LQ9LQ9LQ9KQ9KQ9KQ9K\ Q9IQ9IQ9IQ9IQ9GQ9GQ9GQ9GQ9GPFFNIFLNFKQFIVFIYFGaDFf\ DDiDBnD9qD9tDBvFDvGFvIGvKGvKIvLKvNLvPLvQNvQPvRQvTQ\ vVRvVTvWVxYWx_WxaYxa_xbaxdaxfbxgdxgfxifxkgxlixlkxn\ kxolyqnyroyrqytqyvryxtyvvytxyryyqxyovyntylrykqzioz\ gnzflzdkzbizagz_fzYdzWbzVazT_zRYzRWzQVzQTzQRyQQxQP\ vPPvPQtPRrPTqPVoPWnNWnNYlN_kNaiNbgLdfLfdLfdLgbLiaL\ k_KlYKnWKnWKoVKqTKrRItQIvPIxNIxOGyRFzUDzZBzc9zh8zk\ 8zh8ze8zc8zZ8zU8zP8zK8zA8 } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Re: [Fractint] just a reply. . . .
by Jim Muth 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 at 16:35:15 David Lowenstein wrote: >So Look who's talking, Muth? I am fimiliar with the article found at: http://cryptome.org/fda102099.htm And I'm not talking. I'm now shaking my head in sympathy. >No one talks on a cell phone for 22 hours straight! This is unlikely, but what about those who live and work near cellular antennas? They are exposed to the RF radiation 24 hours a day. And there is a school near where I live that has an array of cellular antennas on its roof, only 15 feet above the students in the classroom below. >According to the FDA, there is no evidence saying cell phones >cause cancer. The article also gives no assurance that cell phones are safe, and recommends certain safety precautions such as keeping antennas away from the head and holding mobile phone use to a minimum. As for the results of experiments on test animals being applied to human beings, we do this all the time. This is why questionable substances are tested on animals instead of people. I have nothing against mobile telephones, which are indisputably very convenient. The object of my screed was the blatant media manipulation that we almost seem to enjoy. I mentioned the radiation from cell phones because it *might* be harmful, and no one appears concerned because the media, not wanting to place their advertising revenues in jeopardy, basically ignores the risk. Also, because of the extensive advertising by the mobile phone industry, these phones are becoming entertainment devices and status symbols, especially among children, who often use them as toys. I also doubt that the telephone companies, with their bottom lines at stake, are the best choice to investigate the possible dangers. How many years did the tobacco companies assure us that cigarettes are safe to smoke? Cell telephones are not going away, but their safety is in question, and they therefore should bear a warning such as that now found on cigarette packages. . . before it is too late. Finally, are you associated with a mobile phone company? :-) Now back to the fractals . . . Jim M.

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