Tim,

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I started to edit the winfract.rtf help file. Saved it, then tried > to recompile. No luck! My version of Word and Wordpad both add fonts (and probably other things) that the help compiler doesn't understand. Boo Hiss!

Surely you save as a text file??? I use a good programmer's editor called textpad (http://www.textpad.com).

No, it's actually an rtf file. If you look at it with a text editor (I use syn) there are tons of control codes that don't appear when viewed with Word or Wordpad. And, yes, I was saving it as an rtf file. What I'll try next, since I have vmware installed, is to create a guest OS using Win95. Hopefully, the Wordpad that it comes with will work. Jonathan

Jonathan Osuch wrote:

No, it's actually an rtf file. If you look at it with a text editor (I use syn) there are tons of control codes that don't appear when viewed with Word or Wordpad. And, yes, I was saving it as an rtf file.

Besides the normal RTF control coding embedded into the RTF, there are also "special" characters used for the building of the HELP file. I used the WORDPAD that came with Windows-98 without any problems to update this file and then recompile it with the Help Compiler.

What I'll try next, since I have vmware installed, is to create a guest OS using Win95. Hopefully, the Wordpad that it comes with will work.

Which is one reason I copied over the WORDPAD and NOTEPAD from my Win-98 machine over to my Win-XP machine. Notepad changed the most after Windows-98 when it went to Win-2K and Win-XP. If you need a ZIP file of these, let me know I will upload them for you to copy over to your machine. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/

Jonathan Osuch wrote:

Yes, please send your version. I tried the version I have with my Win98 and it didn't work.

You may download the Windows-98 version of both Notepad and Wordpad from the following URL: http://home.att.net/~Fractals_5/Accessories.zip Even though you copy them to a seperate folder on your XP machine, the About menu option will still bring up what shows under the current XP version. You have to actually look at the Properties of the executable to see the version differences. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/

Jonathan Osuch wrote:

When I open the winfract.rtf in WordPad98, make no changes, and then save it, I lose 18 KB. The current version does the same thing, although the files look slightly different in Notepad. Must be something else.

Well, first off, when it was saved again under Wordpad, it stripped out a ton of Font information from the front of the "old" RTF file and only used the basic fonts it really needed. The older one has about 67 entries of info in the FontTbl, and the newer one (at least on mine) had only 2 fonts listed. Then it removed the ColorTbl data from the older one. Also, it stripped out any extra "spaces" in some of the RTF control information that was not necessary. Out of the first portion of the file, it removed approximately 3,039 bytes of data that seem to be "extra stuff" stored just for the heck of it. I used the old Microsoft Help Compiler version 4.02.0060 on my RTF file, after setting up the Project file and making a few modifications to tags and references. Later, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/

Jonathan Osuch wrote:

Paul N. Lee wrote:

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I used the old Microsoft Help Compiler version 4.02.0060 on my RTF file.....

I'm using version 3.0b of the Help Compiler. That could be the problem.

If you wish to try the one I use, it may be obtained from here: http://home.att.net/~Fractals_5/HelpWorkshop_4-02.zip Unless you want to give the more current HTML Help Compiler a try?? I personally like the older Help compiler because they create smaller files and the Help files comes up faster when accessing. But there are advantages to the HTML versions. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/

Paul, I found that adding the -n option to the call to the help compiler solved the problem. This is a switch in the hc.bat file that calls a newer version. Jonathan

Jonathan asked:

I've finished bringing the WinFract help file up to date and have committed the changes. Since I had to tweak the make file, I'd like to know if the call to the help compiler still works on your machine.

Seems to be fine. After a few weeks I've gotten bacl to the arbitrary precision project a little today, we'll see how tomorrow goes. Tim

Paul,

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I've finished bringing the WinFract help file up to date and have committed the changes.

Whatever happened to what was going on with WinFract ??

I am currently trying to get the AP math to zoom correctly. There has been progress, but it's slow going. Jonathan

Jonathan Osuch wrote:

....the winfract.rtf in WordPad98....

BTW, I have a FractInt document in RTF format that is more recent than the old WinFract one: http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/FractInt/RTF_Doc.zip It is for FractInt version 20.2 but can easily be brought up to date with the more recent changes. Plus, I have already corrected spelling and grammatical errors. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/