Sirs, a little of history: Fractint was my first contact with fractal s something around the middle of the ´80s. Since then year even, year odd with my old Basic I tried to follow and reproduce the images i saw, just as a quest, but till today i envy but cannot reproduce Lyapunov among others. Winfract was for me a new horizon although did not have the 'stretch' possibility that make things take a perspective look-like view among other shortcomings. My possible limited contributions to Fractint in fractal ideas, in the far past, were barred by my ignorance of C and C++, as I once tried one or two times. The ideas were infantile, so i discontinued to try and enjoyed my own different mandels, ifs, L´s fractals. Nowadays ( I quit using Fractint as soon as Winfract were available for the first time, although making use of the ifs, par, L, frm, map, Fractint´s archives),Winfract also begun to suffers from our new ´64 platforms. ManpWIN then was a salvation for I consider it cumbersome the use of #DOS& compilers. As the matter of fact, it´s not much, but I have for the last few months made suggestions to Fractint was my first contact with fractal s something around the middle of the ´80s. Since then year even, year odd with my old Basic I tried to follow and reproduce the images i saw, just as a quest, but till today i envy but cannot reproduce Lyapunov among others. Winfract was for me a new horizon although did not have the 'stretch' possibility that make things take a perspective look-like view among other shortcomings. My possible limited contributions to Fractint in fractal ideas, in the far past, were barred by my ignorance of C and C++, as I once tried one or two times. The ideas were infantile, so i discontinued to try and enjoyed my own different mandels, ifs, L´s fractals. Nowadays ( I quit using Fractint as soon as Winfract were available for the first time, although making use of the ifs, par, L, frm, map, Fractint´s archives),Winfract also begun to suffers from our new ´64 platforms. ManpWIN then was a salvation for I consider it cumbersome the use of #DOS& compilers. As the matter of fact, it´s not much, but I have for the last few months made suggestions to Paul de Leeuw for his ManpWIN and, surprise, he accepted my Basic codes and some long and new refrained ideas !!! Hope this email and Paul´s information of a refreshed ManpWIN can stir the pure fractal universe that now seems devoted to magnificent palaces, amazing horizons, imaginary planets, traveling lights, that i consider very nice and amazing but as a product of art associated with laborious machine time and far from the pure fractal´s ideals like Fractint had induced us in the past. Citando fractdev-request@mailman.xmission.com:

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1. Re: Sorry, but Fractint is not slowing, but rapidly dying (Timothy Wegner) 2. Re: Sorry, but Fractint is not slowing, but rapidly dying (Paul N. Lee) 3. Re: [Fractint] Fractint under FREEDOS from USB drive (Paul N. Lee) 4. Re: Sorry, but Fractint is not slowing, but rapidly dying (Nicholas Wilt)

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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 14:06:33 -0600 From: Timothy Wegner <tim@tswegner.net> To: "Fractint developer's list" <fractdev@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractdev] Sorry, but Fractint is not slowing, but rapidly dying Message-ID: <CAFLr274tCA4rKt-ZTMixfj1CCL0wht0ni00Aqck67qgz6VFkPg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I am delighted to hear from Paul de Leeuw, and am equally delighted, Paul, to hear you are still working on your fractal program.

Marcus's comments had me laughing out loud. I have no idea what if anything I will further contribute to Fractint. But, Marcus, I am amazed you know my plans! No need to feel any sorrow about one of the oldest and longest-maintained open source projects, which by rights, was obsolete a decade ago. Mystery of mysteries, it's life continues on. The folks who post in the Fractint list amaze me. I, for one, certainly would not rule out more development, but neither am I promising it. FreeDOS is a case in point, as nearly a decade went by between versions 1.0 and 1.1. Interesting how some very talented folks apparently nostalgic for their DOS applications have extended the lives of old software with DOSBox.

At the moment I am indeed working on my old computing platforms, a necessity if I wish to run Fractint or recompile it.. As I reported earlier, I can run FreeDos/Fractint from a USB drive on two of my three computers. Today I wrestled hard with the middle computer. My problems were worse than not being able to boot from the USB drive, Fractint's video modes crashed under FreeDOS on that machine. No such behavior on the other two computers (both the older and newer one.) I did get far enough to learn that the (cheap, but fairly new) Nvidia board did NOT have better VESA support than the ATI graphics on the other two. My scientific curiosity is nearly (but not quite) exhausted with the trials and tribulations of the middle machine, so I will just use the other two. These are home built machines with removable drives, so I have a lot of flexibility.

Tim