Hi All, Looking through the list archives, I came across a thread on the the idea of rewriting fractint in java.. Seems like an excellent idea to me, especially the part about doing speedup optimisations in native code (C or even assembler with a C api). I had just come to the same conclusion for my own project. Thie optimised code could then be loaded for those OS it has been done for and the default java code run for others. It would have the java advantage of running on anything, be much easier to maintain. and best of all , I could contribute ;-) That rave was probably just an intro so I could show you my attempt at a fractal generator...... <shameless_plug> I have a fractal applet on the net at http://qlt.net.au/canvas, which is modelled slightly after winfract. I originally wrote it as a single class applet which made my gallery pictures active, so that anyone could open the applet and explore the area around the image. Since then it has grown (as they do) and now has a user interface and a plugin architecture. The interface is fairly rudimentary because I have tried to keep the size down (currently at 99k) If anyone feels like checking it out and, possibly giving some feedback, I would appreciate it. You will need a real jvm installed (not the crippleware m$ / IE one) to run it </shameless_plug> regards David