I've installed WinCVS but so far can't get started at all. I also have cygwin CVS. Not to mention I could run CVS from Linux. But for the time being I am running CVS on mandy itself. I'll worry about using a remote CVS later. Otherwise you'll wait to get help from me while I'm learning about remote access to CVS. There appear to be some permission problems in the extra directory: Results of cvs checkout (second execution - presumably everything before the extra directory is OK.): cvs checkout: Updating fractint cvs checkout: Updating fractint/common cvs checkout: Updating fractint/common/cvs cvs checkout: Updating fractint/dos cvs checkout: Updating fractint/dos/cvs cvs checkout: Updating fractint/extra cvs checkout: Updating fractint/extra/cvs cvs checkout: failed to create lock directory for `/home/fractint/fractcvs/fractint/extra/cvs' (/home/fractint/fractcvs/fractint/extra/cvs/#cvs.lock): Permission denied cvs checkout: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/home/fractint/fractcvs/fractint/extra/cvs' cvs [checkout aborted]: read lock failed - giving up Also, I was wondering about having binaries in CVS. I thought that was one of CVS's weaknesses, compared, for example, subversion. But I can see that if you want to store everything needed for a distribution zip file in CVS you'd want to do that. Tim