I got rsync working to update my local mirror from fractint.org. I had no idea rsync was so cool. All it needs is for rsync to exist on both ends and for a ssh server to exist on one end. Since we have ssh access to julia, and since rsync exists on julia, I can use rsync to update my mirror. I will update Xfractint float only to the latest version as I promised. I am making a quickie trip to Minnesota (Saturday through Monday) so I'll wave when I fly over Iowa. :-) I'll most likely finish this after the trip. I discovered what you probably already knew, that the termcap library has to be installed by hand on Mandrake 8.1 in order to compile Xfractint. It is supposedly obsolete, so we should figure out how to replace it with whatever is more current. I'll worry about that later. Tim