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Re: [Fractdev] Allegro port
by pdeleeuw 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Hi Guys, My initials are PHD if you want to use that or Paul de is OK as well. Regards, Paul de. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ---------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee(a)Worldnet.att.net> Date: Monday, April 8, 2002 7:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fractdev] Allegro port > Tim Wegner wrote: > > > > Paul D. (since Paul N.Lee. is active here, > > we better avoid plain old "Paul" :-) ) > > Using "PNL" is fine with me, and easy to type. :-) > > Later, > P.N.L. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go > > _______________________________________________ > Fractdev mailing list > Fractdev(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractdev >

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FractNT
by Rupert Millard 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

Hello. Who knows how the FractNT project is getting on? I remember seeing the page (http://athena.atr.net/) ages ago, but as yet there doesn't appear to have been a release. From, Rupert

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Windows compiler errors
by Tim Wegner 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

We have several Paul's here, but I'll refer to Paul DeLeeuw as Paul until such a time as one of other Pauls enters into the conversation, at which point we may have to resort to another naming convention (apologies to Paul N. Lee) :-) I have uploaded the file compiler error file Paul sent me here: http://www.fractint.org/ftp/experimental/XFract_Errors_5April2002.zip Paul, you can upload files yourself since Damien has created an account for you. If you need help, email me privately. Right off the bat, you need to follow Jonathan's advice and define XFRACT. That will immediately clear up all the near, far, and segname stuff. Of course you will still get some errors, because anything to do with Xwindows won't be appropriate, but you will be way ahead of the game. Tim

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP
by pdeleeuw 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Hi Tim, > Consider that Xfractint already uses a 32 bit compiler, and shares > source with fractint via defines. So basically you have to create > a > new define for your version, and search for every instance of the > XFRACT define. All of the code I write is based on MS examples and all the correct defines already exist. I have tried compiling fractint code and get several problems. I need some assistance in setting up the correct #defines in the headers. What I can do is to compile an ZFRACT source file, eg miscres.c, and sent the error printout as a text file. Hopefully we can sort out the correct declarations. Let me know if you are happy with this approach. Thanks, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP
by pdeleeuw 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Hi Tim, > In fact why don't you just capture ALL the warnings to a large > file > and let me place it on the fractint site. While you are at it, we > might be able to help you more if you also sent a large zip file > with > the total source you compiled against. > Can you please supply a URL for the latest XFRACT source? I keep losing it and am probably working on pretty old source code by now. I'll set up a new project and do a raw build and send you a dump of the errors. Many thanks, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP
by pdeleeuw 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Hi Rich, > I did some work on xfractint to factor out the platform stuff into a > device layer with an eye looking forward to things like "Win32" > devices as well as "DirectX" devices, and so-on. I write my windows code so I directly control the pixel space so that there is no dependence on things like direct-x version. I am very keen to develop a basic version of FRACTINT where the GUI is based on an upgrade of the latest WINFRACT (v18.21 I think) and a core engine which calls fully portable compiled modules which are indepenent of operating system (or even platform? eg HP, SUN etc). I have developed a suite of true colour routines including a definition of palette requireing only 6 * 16 bit integers to fully define. I still have a problem deriving an iteration count from a specific RGB value as my algorithm for true colour does not create unique RGB values for each count and duplication does occur. I could do a histogram and remove the duplication before saving to the PNG file but this is fairly heavy processing. I am keen to get other's thoughs on generating true coour palettes which have unique entries and easy translation of RGB -> iteration count. I also do the 3D transforms directly to screen rather than going via a file. With today's speedie processors, why do we still try to do things as if we all have 8086s. Let's hope that we have fired up enough enthusiasm within the group to get a windows 32 bit true colour version of FRACTINT 'out there'. Many thanks, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP
by pdeleeuw 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Hi Rich, I agree with keeping the code generic. I don't use MFC in any of my coding because, although it is more combersome, the c code is far easier to port and is able to be compiled by a wider range of compilers. I look forward to see what you can come up with. I already have a fair proportion of the GUI interface built so all I need is the bolt-on modules which are GUI independant. Thanks, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ---------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich <legalize(a)xmission.com> Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2002 7:01 pm Subject: Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP > > On the subject of compilers, I like VC++6 and am looking forward to > the switch to VC7 for its improved compiler support. > > Having said that, I don't think one should write code that isn't > portable across compilers. > > Writing to the Win32 API and not using MFC would be a way to do that > in the near-term as far as GUI needs go. > > In the longer term, the code should really be split into a platform > agnostic "engine" and a platform-specific GUI chunk. Then you can > use the full GUI-ness of the platform to your advantage, which could > mean MFC/WTX11, etc. > -- > Ask me about my upcoming book on Direct3D from Addison-Wesley! > Direct3D Book <" target="l">http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> > izfree: Open source tools for Windows Installer > <" target="l">http://izfree.sourceforge.net> > > _______________________________________________ > Fractdev mailing list > Fractdev(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractdev >

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP
by pdeleeuw 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Hi Guys, > I have an old Microsoft Visual C/C++ compiler (version 4.0 or 5.0) > so I could follow along. But I'm not personally interested in > learning Windows programming. Leave the windows coding to me. All I want is to be able to get the FRACTINT source code to compile into 32 bit object modules which I can link into the appropriate WIN32 shell. I can base much of the user interface on WINFRACT. Thanks for your interest guys. Regards, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP
by pdeleeuw 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Hi Guys, Are we ready to port FRACTINT to Windows yet? All I need is some help to write header files so that I can compile the substantial Fractint code with MS visual C++ v4.0. The basic windows code already works with MANPWin. Comments please. Thanks, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ---------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Osuch <osuchj(a)avalon.net> Date: Tuesday, April 2, 2002 12:35 pm Subject: Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP > On Monday 01 April 2002 07:58 pm, Tim wrote: > > > Agreed. I can pull out the Targa stuff from all the versions > > together. That will make life simpler. Then if we abandon the > integer> version, there will basically be one set of sources since > Xfractint> and fractint share common code unchanged. > > Close. There is still the experimental code, which will make > porting easier. > > Make sure you are only pulling out the code for the Targa video > board. I > seem to recall some truecolor code for creating tga files. > > Jonathan > > _______________________________________________ > Fractdev mailing list > Fractdev(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractdev >

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP
by pdeleeuw 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Terrific Paul, I have a copy of VC++ v6.0 at work but am a little reluctant to use work facilities for freeware products. However if the headers work for 6.0 then it will greatly simplify translation to 4.0. I'm happy to use the 'generic' FRACTINT code and put in links from my current MANPWin application. Many thanks, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul de Leeuw Computers Central Coast Australia Email: pdeleeuw(a)deleeuw.com.au www: <http://www.deleeuw.com.au> ABN 72 360 822 562 ---------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee(a)Worldnet.att.net> Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2002 2:11 pm Subject: Re: [Fractdev] Fractint and Win XP > pdeleeuw wrote: > > > > All I need is some help to write header files > > so that I can compile the substantial Fractint > > code with MS visual C++ v4.0. > > I can understand your wanting to use a compiler for the operating > system most widely used around the world. Though you do know > that it > kind of goes against the main "theme" of the program: developing and > using FREEWARE product/s. > > I no longer have access to the older 4.0 and 5.0 versions, but if you > need some assistance, then I might have occasional time with MS- > VC++ 6.0 > Pro, which I currently use. Setting up the Hearder files should > not be > too involved. > > Sincerely, > P.N.L. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go > > _______________________________________________ > Fractdev mailing list > Fractdev(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractdev >

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